Whats going on in Oregon?

the Bundy brothers are having a tough go of it in jail.

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burn...-bundy-civil-rights-lawsuit-multnomah-county/

"My rights are being violated. My right to life is being violated. All of my First Amendment rights are being violated. My right to freedom of religion is being violated,” Ryan Bundy wrote in a supporting statement. “My Second Amendment rights are being violated. I never waived that right. My Fourth Amendment rights are being violated."

interesting constitutional theories you're working there, fellas...

 

Pretty funny to me.

I also heard that they've made a request to the Koch brothers for financial aid for their legal stuff.

 

Mofo's are screwing up once into the magic underwear they will be out of there.

 

He's finding out that he HAS no rights. Forget the first ten amendments, even the big three "Life. Liberty. And the pursuit of Happiness." (whatever the hell that means) can be revoked by the state.

If it can be taken away by the state, how is it anything but a state-granted privilege?

 

Those rights are yours to pursue, as long as you don't break social contract (laws).
He's finding that those rights can be revoked if you violate the basic social contract you keep with society.
He's broken multiple laws, and he's in jail as a direct result.

 

Those rights are revoked when you step on the wrong toes.
I've seen too many real criminals walk free to believe otherwise.
Everybody breaks the law pretty much every day.

 

I would agree with you.
The general concept of a social contract (or the golden rule) serves to keep us mostly in line..

 

RIGHTS can't be revoked, no matter what an individual might do. Only PRIVILEGES can. It's semantics, sure, but privileges is the proper word.

 

the real question is: how is one obligated? you say "social contract" how is that? i mean, where and how does one sign up for such? is it not written?

the person is a creature of the state, the Man, is not. who is who?

 

and he thought his rights were being violated when he just wanted to use land he didnt own to do whatever he wanted!

 

Sounds like Occupy Wall Street.

 

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burn...-bundy-verdict-oregon-standoff-malheur-court/

 

You beat me to it not guilty huh.

 

Yet one of the crew died over it. The whole damn situation was just stoopid.

 

Well somebody had to. The government had to remind people what will happen when you try and rise up and protest against them.

 

While you threw in the Big Smiliey Dude at the end of your comment.... It is the Truth.

 

Damnit, I was really hoping to go one damn weekend in Portland without a protest....sigh......

 

from that link:

"No, Im not re presenting myself, I AM myself!"

Be a man!

seems to me one man was murdered.

 

http://www.pria.us/files/public/Com...each/PRIA Paper Earthen Vessel_final_rev1.pdf