Whats going on in Oregon?

Bullshit.

You're not sorry.

 

Hands up don't shoot......err wrong thread

 

yeah but they were thugs that robbed a grocery store. totally different.

 

As a point of clarification, the Sheriff they were going to go talk to is in the neighboring county (Grant) of the refuge they were occupying. Not the Sheriff that had jurisdiction (Harney County). They wanted to go to the Grant County Sheriff because he was sympathetic to their cause.

As a side note, if you are behind someone with your gun drawn, and you see their hand go down to where you have no visibility, IMO, you have justification to shoot.

1) Finicum made statements related to a shootout, and/or gunfights, and/or dying at the refuge.
2) In the video filmed from within the car, he repeatedly tempted the FB/OSP to shoot him.

Based on the first, I'd take no chances.

 

He was running at the roadblock and not trying to stop. Of course they shot at it.

Mong, the G men shot at the truck well before he "blew" the road block...look at their own diagrams. So, was he running the road block from x feet before the road block? Probably, if it didn't appear that he was slowing down before the shots. I don't believe that they had to shoot the old buzzard, but he gave them a lot of reasons.

As for the accusation of the G man lying about taking two shots and the others going along with it, well that's a disgrace to the Bureau if it is proven true. That kind of bullshit just fuels the flames.

 

What's all this talk about about "sense" fancy pants?

 

Nothing wrong with seeking council of that sheriff.

1) Making statements is not validation to kill. Otherwise they`d be shooting all day. (thinkBLM)

Not one bit of violence until this.

The group repeatedly stated they wanted no violence.

2) So they shot him because he "tempted" them to? LOL

They shot him with hands up. THEN he reaches for his side. He should know to stand still while they shoot him or he`ll get.....shot.

They shoot into a moving vehicle full of people. They have cover. Well except for the moron standing IN FRONT of the roadblock.

 

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NO.

He never had a weapon out. Period.

They shot him hands up.

How do you figure they shot at a weapon being used against them? Please don`t say the truck. They had cover behind the roadblock, excep[t for the moron standing in front of it.

 

Oh.

I respect your opinion.

 

No, they didn't shoot him because he taunted/tempted them to do so. They shot him because his hand went towards his waist, and from behind, the officer there could no longer see his hands. I'm not a cop, but I'm guessin 9 out 10 times when a hand moves toward the waistband, or under the jacket, it's for a weapon. I may be ignorant, but that is a pretty good way to get fired upon, if not killed (as in this case).

Dumb fucker is dead. He brought it on himself.
Making him a hero, martyr or saint is a misappropriation of sentiment, in my opinion.
At least it saves the cost of a trial.

And, I respect your opinion...

 

His hand went towards his waist after he was shot.

Before that, hands were up.

Should he have kept his hands up while being shot?

He got out of a vehicle that was already being shot at, with passengers. And put his hands up. And then was shot.

They pushed every step of that. He should be in jail.

I agree, he`s no hero or martyr. He also should be able to drive to talk to a sheriff.

Thanks for your respect.

 

I agree. Probably a little shocked though about being shot while hands up.

Probably tough to maintain composure while being shot at by multiple people.

He pushed things and was willing to pay the price because of his beliefs; I feel they were wrong to kill him under the circumstances.