The immigration and other recent discussions got me thinking. We seem to have a fundamental disagreement on the purpose of laws. Clearly, a crime against another person is both morally and legally wrong. You should not be able to kill, hurt, or steal from another without suffering some sort of legal consequence. But what about all the other stuff where there's no victim, even indirectly? So many of the laws on our books are for things that don't hurt anyone at all, but seem to be there because doing whatever the law prohibits "might" negatively affect another: immigration, drug laws, speeding, prostitution, etc. There's been a lot of talk of "but they're criminals - they're breaking the law" but who's law, and is it justifiable?