Trump is a Winning Machine

Not having a business degree myself, it would seem it should be approached in the same way that a private company does it. The needs of the company are analyzed, redundant functions removed, cost saving measures implemented, department heads being held accountable. Don't get me wrong, I don't live in some fantasy world where I think the govt will be run as well as a private company but you have to start somewhere and I don't think that means "shut the whole fucking thing down". To me that seems to be cutting off your nose to spite your face. We the people elect our leaders and our leaders are the ones that continue to add pork to spending bills, continue to only look out for their self interest and are beholden to lobbying groups. We should be doing better and we should be expecting better from our leaders, not just the Pres... all of them but it starts with him/her.

 

You have no idea how the government operates, do you?
Businesses lay off when needed because they have to make a profit or go out of business.
The government doesn't make or need to make a profit and can't go out of business, thus none of the drivers that keep a company
operating are there. Government agencies never downsize or cease to exist.
Try to imagine what your company would be like if there was no need to make a profit or to even be good at what you do.
Now unionize the employees.
What do you think it would look like?

 

No...it doesn't. If you made the choice to take that government job because it came with the backend pension that's on you and I don't feel bad about it at all. Just like when the leaders of that Union decided it was time to strike and you have no choice because you put you future in the hands of a few who are looking out more for themselves than they are you.

I like a little more control over my choices than that.

 

Government has NEVER (well maybe not never, but in the last 150 years) been run as a business. By its very nature it cannot. Business exists to make a profit. Government supposedly exists for the good of the governed. In the US, that probably lasted about as long as it took the members of the congress to get back home to the schemes and dreams of those that put them in office. It is all about power and control of the money is power.

 

Except for the fact that your company doesn't have the ability to force everyone in the country to provide it a guaranteed source of revenue. I will say it again for everyone that this problem started in 1943 and will continue until you are ready to over throw the government again. When your great grandparents gave them the ability to remove their "taxes" from your paycheck before you got it the game was over.

 

Incorrect. The Office of Thrift Supervision no longer exists. It was folded into the OCC, FDIC, the Federal Reserve Board and the CFBP. I am sure there are more examples out there.

There need to be a lot more examples. Just by looking at how many places the OTS was folded into will tell you there are still too many agencies regulating banking. That doesn't even count all of the state regulators that are basically in competition with each other and the federal agencies to try to get banks under their regulation.

 

Well there was some downsizing that happened as part of that, and it did cease to exist. The latter being the main thing I was refuting. I am sure it didn't come close to removing anywhere near the number of jobs as CFPB created when that new agency came in being.

 

The agency OTS ceases to exist. Not everyone kept their job. I don't know the exact totals on the employment side, but there is one less alphabet soup agency and the bureaucracy shrunk a bit. It isn't anywhere near enough, but we should celebrate any success in shrinking the government no matter how small.

 

But we are paying for it. The social costs are staggering and even more so to our own poor. The cost of schools teaching non-English students or even students that are not our own. Welfare, crime and remittances all impact us. Reduce illegal immigration and a lot of $$ are free to either remain with those who earned them or to aid AMERICANS. Entry level jobs become more available as a gateway to success for AMERCIANS. Reduce legal immigration also and wage depression slows or reverses.

 

Government employee no not to my knowledge. Contractors, yes.

 

Spot on in the ideal world. Otherwise I would say that frequently "Government supposedly exists for the good of the governed." ia "Government supposedly exists for the good of the governing."

 

It's actually a great example of agencies never die.

The Federal Home Loan Bank Board was a board created in 1932 that oversaw the Federal Home Loan Banks also created by the act. It was superseded by the Federal Housing Finance Board and the Office of Thrift Supervision in 1989. Wikipedia

 

So, did some digging, on the last shutdown, furloughed Gov employees did get back pay: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/pay-...details-on-your-back-pay-during-the-shutdown/

Going further back to an earlier shutdown, some got back pay on top of being paid?! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...3-government-shutdown/?utm_term=.0552cf7ffe22