Points and the future of V8

Yes, you can run it in the V8 medium weight and heavy weight. The only con I can think of is that if you regularly run B SS, they almost always run V8 MWT and B SS in the same race, so you're screwed with picking one.

 

And just when I though I was going to be able to get another race in. Oh well

 

Then explain to me how it benifits only me.
Answer the question.
You have refused to sit down and talk with any of us. Fact.
You have told me vintage dont pay the bills.
Yet you added V8 cause Dustin said if you made they will come.
I can go back and cut and past what you have said if you like?
Now answer how this change of points rule would help only me?
See i look at it as more guy would show up and race.
And they would make more races to make up points if they dont have enough.
Putting more money in Wera pocket.
And as for my writing its good enough at sign up when i pay wera my money.
So its good enough here.
I await how this rule works for only me sir.
Steven Isenhower #52

 

ion.
And yet again - You want the GNF for Vintage to be effectively winner take all. Same as Sportsman, because you see the current structure where you have to actually race against other riders to get wins as being a detriment. You keep using Trautmanas an excuse because unlike YOU he doesn't have to race other people and gets wins given to him. Which is also bullshit as he keeps beating other riders when they do show up. Just like if you're not able to win you pull in and bitch about the points structure making it not worth your while to keep racing. It's bullshit but it is your "reasoning".

Yet i won my Championship just like that.
And yet i want to change it to benifit me only.
That BS.
Hell worked in my favor yet i want it changed.
You either cant read or just dont want to listen to any other ideals.
But that cool.
I just figured if a person could earn 120 points total by GNF. It would get more riders to show up at GNF.
We all know how packed the grids are in Vintage.
And this has never been about me.
Yet you make it all about me.
Tell me how many have a chance at GNF for a national title this yr?
I can tell you.
2.
So keep doing what your doing sir.
So explain how you sold me a championship again?
Dont we still have to race at GNF for it?
But if more guys had chance then maybe they would run a whole season and spend more money with Wera.
I still dont get how you think this is about me?
And how this will help me and only me?
Like how you bring up john.
Up until i started racing john was only person who showed up at GNF with 120 points. Period
So while he won and ive never said anything different
You in effect sold him his due to points.
Norman showed up and took it to him and everyone else.
Good for him.
I used john and me as an example of how flawed your points system is.
Norman would have won V7HW title by my points.
It rewards winning and racing for tge prize at GNF.
And its not even remotely like sportsman points winner take all.
Shows you have not even read what iv put down.
You still have to race to collect points.
But this is about me again.
Some poor racer who drives all those hours to come race.
Have a great day.

Steven Isenhower #52

 

Trautman has competition this year. It's me. At least for the V8 HWT class.

 

Mongo hates us.......he hates us all!!

 

Thats whats wanted and needed.
Answer me this.
If you show up with 4 wins and 2 2nds and someone else shows up with 120.
And you beat them and they finish 2nd.
Can you win title?
Nope.
Johns fast but mongo wants this to be about me.
I only used his as an example and johns knows this.
Have great respect for him and for Norman.
My only goal is to get more guys on grid in vintage classes.
My bitch is if a person who shows up on grid and is only guy in that class.
He spent his money and gets 20 points.
Now if a few guys in their region are trading wins all yr and they all end up at GNF.
You have lost already cause counting only 6 best then guy who has no one to race wins championship.
2015 i proved that.
I lost race by 3 inches to Norman.
John blew a motor.
Only 2 guys had perfect points in V7HW.
Me and john.
With my points system Norman would have won title.
And he would have earned it.
But as mongo points out this would help only me.
And he would have sold me the title.
So 2 things.
He either didnt read what i proposed or he just dont understand what ive said.
Or he just dont care to grow it.
My system does not hurt anyone winning but if you finish 2nd you just make another race to keep adding to your points.
Kill counting 6 best results and add all points.
Anyone over 120 points will be knocked back to 120 total.
Then its winner take all.
So if you nees 120 you race till you get 120. Count all points.
So if you need more points you just go to another race which outs more money in Weras pocket.
Yet this is selling me a title?
Amazing.
You cannot win a title without having 6 wins and showing up at GNF to race John or Norman in V7.
You are done before you gridded up.
But you still have to beat them both.
But again mongo doesnt want to sell me a championship.
Go look at 2015 Result and see who i lined up with?
Then tell me this is in my favor.
I just lost Nola a few weeks ago.
80 points are gone cause no one drives there but me.
And its the closest race for me.
Did i bitch. Nope.
I even defended Wera.
But mongo attacked me anyways.
Lol.
Have a great day

Steven Isenhower #52

 

What's 2nd place worth in points at the GNF? 34 points right (everything doubled)? Interesting scenario that I need to do the math on...

 

So explain how I won title and Norman didnt in 2015.
He had 119 points going and and i had 120.
But i had 6 wins and he didnt.
Yet he win race?
Again explain that one?

Steven Isenhower #52

 

I hate to say it, but Steve is right! And yeah how did I loose then? Lol

 

Somebody funk match , that could not of happen!!!

 

It cause you only count 6 best. Duh
May want to read your own rule book.
I learned that one my 1st yr back.
V7 HW.
Amazing.

Steven Isenhower #52

 

Look for some reason this is confusing.
Counting 6 best counts in total.
I have no ideal how it done.
But common sence said Norman should have won title.
But he didn't. I even looked at his points before that race.
He had 119 and i was having hand issues bad.
You keep calling me out as this is all for me.
Yet all i ever said or wanted was to get more guys on grid.
I talked to guys who bought V7 bikes.
Hell i even know where my old ZX6R is at.
Every guy that bought a bike never used them just because if you have 1 or 2 bad races you can't make up points cause you count 6 best.
So my solution was simplest and dont hurt anyone.
It made it so if you have 6 2nd places then you can do another race and add to points.
Then at GNF it would give inventive for racers to come out cause they would have a shot.
But as ive been told by you that this is selling me a title. Lol.
Hell im out for yr so why would i even waste my time still trying to put riders on grid?
Whats my motivation?
I have none.
But your point system saved me money last yr.
I was under the impression that you would like to fill grids and keep racers coming back.
So you figure out how to get more vintage guys on grid.
I know where a bunch of bikes are for sale that fit in V7.
Lance Yeager has one.
Mitchell Bruce has one
Joeseph Barr had one. I got it sold for him
After 3 yrs of trying.
Theres in on forum thats a great deal.
2 ZX6Rs also still up.
Thats just off top of my head.

Steven Isenhower #52