For the FTP's amongst us

Failure to comply is too often translated into violence.
It's part of the job, learn to deal with it without going off the deep end.

 

I've read the same thing about the Dung Beetle here. Draw your own conclusions.

 

People who DEMAND respect don’t react well when they don’t get it.

 

Ouch! Our resident flatfoot has a bit of a blind spot, but he's actually quite reasonable on all other matters.

 

There's plenty of free space in there...

 

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................I'm the Donald Trump of the Dungeon!

Melting snowflakes one day at a time.

 

Questions. It was reported that the man was driving on a suspended license. Was the officer that was trying to stop him in the first place aware of who the man was? Did the officer know something about the man that wasn't reported in the news story? Was, or had, he been a public threat in the past? Did he have a criminal past that would indicate the man being a threat to the public? So many questions not answered in the video, on the audio captured, or in the news story.
Hey, but let's not wait until we learn more about it. Let's kill the police officers and bury them so they won't bother any more suspects.

 

You can't be SERIOUS!?!?!?!

We don't do details in the Dungeon - FTP thread............please Orvis, clearly you're a LE apologist.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/12/us/baltimore-police-corruption-trial/index.html

Just when the FTP thread thought it might be able to make it to page 2 in the dungeon. Baltimore got 2 more accused in their non-systemic-not-really-a-police but-a-compliance-issue investigations.

 

Might as well throw this in here.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-after-not-shooting-suicidal-man-sues-n756976

 

The city and the city's police force have every reason to roast that guy - if he can persuade the public that the suicidal man was not an imminent danger to the public (or officers) then the other officer who showed up shooting was in the wrong and therefore "it was a bad kill".

 

If it went down as described, the cops arriving on scene were justified in lighting him up, despite the good cop's attempts at defusing the situation. They had no prior knowledge of what went down or what his mental state was, they see a guy, firearm in hand, not surrendering to police. He was a perceived imminent threat and neither good cop nor trigger cop were wrong in the manner in which they handled the scene as it was presented to them.

What this will do, is even further erode the public trust in the cops and the political machinations behind them.

 

Welp, add another one to the long list of Sons that if Obama had a Son, he would be like this kid.
Wait, what? This guy was white? Stop the presses - It’s clearly a case of justifiable homicide.
No outrage here, move along.

 

Not knowing what was going on is more reason to not shoot, not a good excuse for shooting.
Especially when there was already a cop there who was handling it.

 

I'm sure you're right. Best to shoot first and sort it out later.

 

911 call said gun was unloaded (for whatever that is worth) and the officer at the scene hadn't yet shot the guy with the gun. I won't argue that the backup officers did anything "wrong", but it wasn't "right" either.

Two thoughts:

1. It would be nice if back up arriving on the scene could have somehow been made aware (if they weren't in this case) how the scene was developing or being treated by the officer(s) on site.
   
   
2. In this one isolated incident, this is exactly the type of courage, intelligence and judgement I believe people expect of police officers. He likely had a lot of practice in threat assessment and deescalation from conducting more than a couple house sweeps in Afghanistan where shoot first can have much higher consequences than paid leave.