For the FTP's amongst us

Knowing the laws doesn't make them just or constitutional. Asset forfeiture is under the blanket of the law. You would do well (as anyone can) in North Korea with that sentiment. I'm not condoning violence against cops, but they shouldn't be surprised by the erosion of public support.

 

I am not the one that grouped all cops together, they did (RICO, conspiracy laws, thin blue line, etc.). Equal application right?

 

I am not assigning anybody the death penalty. Its just that anything the makes me question American policing culture also makes me less sympathetic to their challenges, dangers, and deaths. I am confident that they view a large portion of the general public negatively as well. Its human nature.

As far as the typical beat cop is concerned, "just following orders" does not absolve them in my book. If my company asks me to behave in an unethical way, and I do, its on me. I find asset forfeiture as implemented in this country to be theft. I would not participate in it and find little room for respect for those who do.

Idiotic or not, its how I see it.

 

Ironic that weed is legal in North Korea.

 

At this point, the courts support them, not you, so they are behaving ethically per the rule of law. I don't like it either, but then I'm not doing anything that would warrant them taking the house from the bank.

 

Wow, this thread has run completely of the rails lately, absolutely confirms the old saying, "You can't fix stupid!"


Lord knows I've tried one too many times.

 

Reading material on the topic.

http://www.ij.org/images/pdf_folder/other_pubs/assetforfeituretoemail.pdf

 

Sorry to go all Darwin but wouldn't the people who worked at the Nazi death camps have the support of their courts at the time? Man's law does not supersede my own code.

 

Not a man??

 

Sexist. Back off the Nazi $hit. Comparing asset forfeiture to death camps is absurd in the extreme. I could buy a well prepared argument in favor of forfeiture. Mass extermination, not so much.

 

That's the fucked up part, there's plenty of people who did nothing to warrant it either but they take it anyway. Carrying cash in your car is not illegal, but that doesn't stop them from taking it and then making you prove your innocence to maybe get it back.

 

Godwin.

 

Or you're just wrong and you can't see it because your profession has left you brainwashed. It's clear to many here just from your posts, but of course anyone who disagrees is just stupid. Not even worth arguing anymore.

 

Ha. Nice work by me.

 

Oh I beg to differ.

The only people who tend to agree that I am wrong, most times, tend to be the same handful of known clueless ftp'ers in here. A good number of them have and always will misrepresent my position or words even, by adding language I never made on much of the discussed incidents in here. If they've shown the forum anything it's that they can't handle real life responses on matters they have no idea on. For crying out loud I've had to argue with folks who think cops should shoot guys in the foot OR the weapon out of their hand and they walk away thinking the same thing as you, that I'm wrong....lol. It's happened more often than I care to recall.

I've been on this forum for well over a decade now, and the level of FTP is off the charts these days but I blame social media and Liberalism for that, the last President certainly didn't make it any better for LE.

 

I'm a long time conservative and this was my first time posting in here. Your dismissive attitude is misplaced on me.