MotoGP | 2025 | Race 4 | Qatar | Lusail | Apr 11- Apr 13

You don’t get it both ways. Either you’re sane or you’re the greatest motorcycle racer to ever live. The two don’t coexist.

 

So the incident between Alex and his brother then with Digi seems to be just another race incident incurring a ride through.

A pattern? We shall see If Alex starts using others as a berm in future races...

 

The part that gave me that vibe was right at the end where he was told that Mav got disqualified and Pecco got second, and instead of wondering "huh, what does that do the for the points" he immediately said "great, first and second!"

Lol, that motherfucker knows he's got the field covered with ease for the rest of the year. Feeling like he might challenge his own 2019 dominance.

 

He's on the best bike on the grid. Factory Duc's finishing 1-2.

Remember your excuse for him last year about not having the best bike for him not winning the championship? And now he's on one of the two best bikes on the grid. And you're shocked his winning? lol

 

Who’s shocked? You stating that makes you the fool not me. We all said before the beginning of the season last year he wouldn’t have it. The 24 was even better than we imagined and he still should have been 5th in the championship. All the garbage you just vomited up has nothing to do with what I said to you either. Way to deflect.

 

Mav's post-race

 

So what would Marc have to do on the Duc to achieve "alien" status, since apparently sweeping the weekend with pole, 2 wins, and fastest laps, all at one of his historically worst tracks, isn't sufficient?

 

Win an MMA match against Rossi, Stoner, Doohan and Ago, all at the same time. Otherwise, he's just a pretender.

 

I guess I'll mansplain it.

In previous years the excuse was he wasn't on the best bike and that's why he couldn't be dominate like he used to.

Now he's winning because he is literally on the best bike on the grid.

So at first he just couldn't win because his bike sucked. But now he's on the best bike on the grid and it's his pure raw talent that's winning?

So which is it? Is his competition actually that inferior to him, or is it the fact that literally everyone else other than pecco-head isn't on as good of a bike as either of them are? If you want to make the argument that he's better than pecco, well I'd say that's a damn fair argument from looking at the statistics between the two of them.

Do I think there's other riders that would absolutely give him the business if they were on the same spec Duc? Fuck yes.

 

Ok let me explain it in moron terms. Put anyone in the last 25 years on the exact Ducati he’s on and the results would be the same as this season. That’s called being an alien. I don’t understand how that’s so hard to understand. And you’ve still never responded to my simple question while you’ve got your legs spread with your little pecker poking out trying to mansplaine more gahbage.

 

It's purely hypothetical, but I call BS on that.

Stoner, Lorenzo, Rossi, Vinales, J. Martin etc. would not be getting dominated by Marquez on equal bikes. I won't even argue that Marquez is the "best", but to take it that far is crazy. The fact that Alex Marquez is the closest competitor this year tells you everything you need to know about 2025.

 

Now, let's inject some logic into this, if you will indulge me for a minute.

Your own reasoning leads you to the conclusion that Marc is better than Pecco. But Pecco has won or finished second in the championship for the last four years, if I am not mistaken. He took 11 wins last year. That would suggest that he is near the pointy end of the range of talents in the class.

And so far this year, with access to the same equipment as Marc, he is being completely outclassed. Again, Pecco (and Martin, who can be reasonably assessed as bar equal to him) had been dominating the class until the playing field was leveled with Marc.

Alex is another pretty good benchmark. We have all of last year to see what the gap is between the brothers when alien talent helps one overcome the limitations of the bike they are both supplied with. Alex could you get a whiff of the podium last year. I don't believe that his talent level changed over the winter.

In addition, there's nothing we have seen this year that objectively proves or even suggests that the GP25 is significantly better than the GP24. All we can tell for sure is that it's better than the GP23. So until proven otherwise, Marc is dominating 5 racers, not 1 or 2, with machines good enough to beat him if they were ridden by people better than he is.

I've lost my train of thought but in conclusion, he is the lone alien in the field until we know what the real deal is with Acosta.

 

That is a fairly poor argument in additon to not being factually correct. First, Fabio DiGiantonio is also on a GP25 this year. How has he done? It has not been established that the GP25 is superior to the GP24, witness the results of Alex and Frankie. Finally, quality of bike is not mutually exclusive of quality of bike.

 

WAT

 

I'm really curious about this one.

I know the talk is about Acosta going to Honda, but for me that's a lateral, or perhaps an upward diagonal, from where he is today at KTM. Arguably the Honda will get better as the KTM continues to metamorphose into a slower and slower rolling chicane as KTM's financial house of cards continues its day of reckoning. I digress.

I'd really like to see VR46, and by extension Ducati, make a bid for Acosta to go to VR46 for the '26 season. I know that the pundits are saying that Ducati has plenty of talent in its ranks, blah blah blah. However, with that being said, why not wage a proxy war on Honda via VR46 and Gresini? If Ducat gets Acosta on Frankie's bike for '26 then they will have effectively sown up the rookie talent (less Ogura) in the series for the moment by also having Fermin on the Gresini (that kid is no slouch either) This forces Honda to look to Moto 2 and Moto 3 and to ride the development curve with new riders yet again and / or move Toprak from WSBK. None of which, outside of Ogura, are ideal from creating an intersection of opportunity for the '27 season; i.e., right rider, right bike, right rules package interpretation.

In closing, Acosta on equal equipment, could be the challenger that Marc is missing in the current field. C'mon Ducati. Do it!

 

Have I missed the discussion here about Maverick and his KTM being able to race with the Ducati Factory riders on GP25's, when everyone was writing them off over the winter, due to KTM's financial issues?

I was impressed, anyway. He gained a bit of confidence, without any doubt.

Some of you all are discussing stuff like this season is almost over, when it's barely begun.
I can't even follow your theoretical and hypothetical conjectures for next year.

Like Nicky said, "that's why we line them up and race on Sunday."

 

Post-race Marc said he broke loose and rolled off in front of Alex, causing that first collision. Alex followed up saying he was leaned over and surprised by the contact because he wasn't that close when he leaned into the corner. Not saying Alex is infallible, but that one would seem to be a purely racing incident.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DIidzFgN2Il/

 

Me thinks some of you are overlooking the fact that Marc could run off and stomp a hole in tbe field if he didn't have to concern himself with that stupid tire pressure rule. He so easily blows past whoever he's using as a tire warmer and stretches a 2 second lead with almost zero effort. Without the tire rule, I truly think he'd be having Lorenzo type rides where he sails off into the sunset and gets out of sight of second place.

 

Yea I saw that conversation. Cameras on and all so I think I would like to be fly on the wall when they aren't around.

Alex seems to have a lot more moxie than I remember.

 

Ten bucks says you are wrong.