Josh Herrin at Daytona (new title, same thread)

You said he was being a douche. Douche without meeting is ok but brat isn't?
Shit doesn't matter to me, but the standards shouldn't change just because you know and like Josh. Unless "being" and "is" causes the problem. It may depend on what your definition of is is.
Steve

 

I don't get it, what's "interesting"? Forget for a moment that it's about Josh Herrin, if the actions of some random guy caused two other guys to crash at high speed, wreck their stuff... and then the "random guy" was quoted as saying 'I didn't have time to go talk to one of the guys'... would you suggest that people are "jumping to conclusions" if they consider the "random guy" a "brat" or maybe a jackwagon??

On what grounds are you defending Herrin? Am I missing something? Is there really an excuse for Herrin not to go over to Westby and at least apologize for what happened? Rossi went over to apologize to Stoner knowing that it wouldn't be received well but he was still a man about it and owned up to his mistake.

 

Why apologise to "another" gixxer that spent time in a race stuffing it up the inside of Josh. Dane did do that in the 200 . Almost took Josh out doing it too.If you watch the race you will see it. Josh did NOT purposly take anyone out! He's got a steroid pummper on his left wrist ( or whatever it is) to make it heal from the other gixxer that stuffed up in his blind spot.. Give the kid a break . I mean F-ck! Enough is enough already

 

Conversely Sean, maybe your personal experience/knowledge of Josh is skewing your opinion of his actions.

 

Fair enough. :up:

 

Ahhh, I think maybe I'm starting to see your train of thought. "Brat" is a state of being in your book, but you don't see that term being used as "how you feel about someone". Since you agreed that "you can dislike how he has responded" then maybe other terms are acceptable (douche, weasel, jerk, etc.) but not "brat". FWIW, I definitely don't believe that he did it on purpose, I just feel his actions after the fact displayed very poor sportsmanship. There's really no excuse for not going over to Dane and at least offering an apology, regardless of whatever else happened in the race. I don't know of any racer who wouldn't feel bad about (unintentionally) causing another rider to crash at such high speed and destroy his motorcycle, so I have to assume Herrin must feel bad about the end result even if he's not buddies with Dane.

 

Whatever. Sounds like a bunch of rationalization to avoid saying the truth: we ALL judge people by the things we hear them say and see them do, without knowing them on a personal basis, and the terms we use to describe them are based in our personal experience not some universal code.
Steve

 

Websters dictionary defines it as "an ill-mannered immature person".

I thought that was pretty goddamn spot on... You don't need to know someone personally to form the opinion that they are a brat. Also I thought "brat" was definitely on the kinder, milder side of things...

 

No, I haven't. I'm sure all in all he's not a bad person, but in following the AMA for some time now I've formed the opinion that Herrin is a brat. Would I change my mind if I met him? Maybe... Probably not though. It's easy to be nice and cool to someone's face while acting like a brat to a third party.

 

I have but not in a few years. Far from a brat, just a goofy ass kid.

 

Fixed :up:

 

About the only guy in this deal who won was the painter who got paid to paint the replacement bodywork on Dane's bike. I wonder who THAT is?

 

Did the frame even survive the hit into the wall? Seems bodywork was the least of that bikes problem.