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2023 entry fees for CCS?

Discussion in 'General' started by DmanSlam, May 2, 2023.

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  1. Dave Wolfe

    Dave Wolfe I know nuttin!

    Shit it just dawned on me .. did the trackday org buy the entire CCS / ASRA organization?

    That would be tough to successfully run after a takeover. There are so many relationships to maintain my head is exploding. Im thinking the only way it would work is if the acquiring party has experience running a roadracing org.
     
  2. bergs

    bergs Well-Known Member

    Business 101....don't drive the existing customer base away.
     
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  3. DBConz

    DBConz Registered Idiot

    so i had a few calls with the new owners. my last conversation was regarding the fact that they no longer do credits/refunds. so if you crash and cant ride for the rest of the weekend, you lose all that money.

    the response i was given was "i'm not paying you to fix your motorcycle".

    when i asked what he's doing for customer retention when there are several other TD orgs in their region all doing the same business at the same tracks around the same time.
    His response: "absolutely nothing".

    at that point i ended the call.
     
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  4. britx303

    britx303 Boomstick Butcher…..

    WTF?
     
  5. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    This is the second time I've personally witnessed a track day org get into racing and there's things they just aren't going to do right, for whatever reason. One of the things that bothered me about the new CCS is you have to have a transponder for every bike. You can't swap between bikes or you'll lose all your lap times. That's just silly, fix your software.
     
  6. britx303

    britx303 Boomstick Butcher…..

    Guess it’ll be WERA only for me. Sounds like a nonstop clusterf*ck
     
  7. DBConz

    DBConz Registered Idiot

    from what i've seen so far after 6 months of their operation
    • $125 late fee for post registration
    • AMB transponder (G3 westhold was required in 2022)
    • transponder per bike
    • charging racers for oil cleanup
    • entry fees nearly doubled
    • no credits/refunds
    • rulebook changes mid season
    • no trophies for 2022 championships
    • dropped destroke bikes
    • added Homestead to 2023 schedule with 1 week notice
     
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  8. Robin172

    Robin172 Well-Known Member

    This must be Mongo's side gig, killing road racing etc.
     
  9. voss555

    voss555 Well-Known Member

    That's the one I can't get around. They are worried someone is going to use their 1000 to qualify for the MW race. First, who cares. Second, that's not a real thing.
     
  10. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    don't see this as a major possibility .. if someone wanted to use a "1000 to qualify for the MW race", they can just swap out the other transponder.
    Is there a justified reason for a transponder for each bike? i don't know for certain. i doubt the few extra dollars they get for it is a reason, nor do i think making sure someone doesn't use a 1000 to qualify for a mw race.. I would believe they want no issues after a race, someone raising hell that they forgot to switch their transponder, and scream to get the result counted even though they forgot their transponder? just a guess. I really don't know their reason.
     
  11. voss555

    voss555 Well-Known Member

    That's the reason they gave. Someone using a different class bike to qualify. I think most club racing as gone to the "unless its a rental transponder" its your problem rule.
    Qualifying is counter intuitive to their late fee as well. At my old club it was whole other race to see who registered first to get pole. That got people to sign up for races... Incentives.
     
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  12. evakat

    evakat Well-Known Member

    Crazy...
    Last CCS owner was losing his A$$ financially because he was watching the books close enough to "make a little" money after all the bills are paid.
    And the new owners are trying to recoup all their investment in the first 1-2 years ownership!
    I have also heard from 1-3 CCS racers that are pulling back from running with them because of these ridiculous fees.
     
  13. Woofentino Pugr

    Woofentino Pugr Well-Known Member

    From some of his snarky replies on FB he has to be a huge ass douche in person.
     
  14. ahrma_581

    ahrma_581 Well-Known Member

    That the guy who was going to buy out/sue out of business WERA?
     
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  15. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    That reads like a business that won't be in business very long.
     
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  16. BC

    BC Well-Known Member

    Did they change the name to Championship Cunt Series?
     
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  17. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    :crackup: nope.
     
  18. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    don't think so, that was john that owns trackday winner track days. i think.
     
  19. GixxerBlade

    GixxerBlade Oh geez

    OFFICIAL CALLS RACERS THAT SIGN UP LATE LAZY. Posted in a Facebook group

     
  20. Booger

    Booger Well-Known Member

    NESBA sucks!
     
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