2017 Ford f250 gasser

You sonofabitch! I fart in your general direction.

 

I ain't one of these fair haired pasty ass motherfuckers.

 

And ain't any of us stoppin ya from leavin!

 

My Cummins gets better than 20 mpg empty- I could probably stretch it to 23 mpg if I can go within the speed limit on the highway . It actually gets better mpgs empty than the 2011 Tacoma it replaced and also can tow about 4 times more because it has 865 lbs. torque bone stock. It doesn't get 20 mpgs when towing but can pull just shy of 18k lbs on the bumper and I've had my trailer loaded to about 14k lbs and towed it without a single issue whatsoever.
It's not perfect. None of them are and I've gone through a lot of German and Japanese cars, suvs and trucks but it's a damn good truck that's not short on luxury or performance.

 

And what does that have to do with you and Putterslut looking like a couple of powdered donuts?

 

But you aren't claiming you get the same mileage loaded or empty, like so many guys have. The "can't even tell I have a trailer on" is my favorite tho. Hell, I could feel a 2 place steel trailer behind my dually. Not saying it was dramatic, but I could certainly feel it.

 

You can go back east and not see us.

 

It's interesting how some guys get 12 mpg empty and lightfooting it and some claim to get 20.
Is reality somewhere in between...?

 

Gee, will that make Mongo not mistake your translucence for my opaqueness?

 

Yup- the "can't feel the trailer" is either bs or an indication of their driving skills.

 

I pull 18-ish unloaded with the tuner blowing soot. 4.10 gears suck. With the snot this thing has it ought to be rolling on a 2.73 ratio.

 

My 2001 5.4 has 325,000 miles on it. I kept it.
The diesel option for the 2017 model is over $9k plus the other packages the inevitably tack on putting it way over ten grand more. 10 grand more at resale? I doubt it.
But I have no dog in this fight. I made my decision and love my new truck. For my hauling needs it is perfect. And it sounds awesome.

 

4.10 doesn't help with mpgs but it's the norm with duallies from what I've seen. Mine's 3.43 if I'm not mistaken.

 

2001 F250 gasser for $5,900

2001 F250 stinkfuel for $12,250

Twice the value after 16 years?

 

If you've got a 3rd gen or newer 4.10 and 3.73 are the only ratios available AFAIK. My '01 2500 had 3.55 and my '03 3500 SRW was 3.73. I've been looking for aftermarket options to give this thing a 14-1500 rpm 70mph ratio but there is nada out there for the American Axles shit.

 

My dually had 3.73s and with the stick needed either taller gears or another gear. Interstate unloaded was a waste of fuel. Got better mileage driving around town.

 

I had a '14 Grand Cherokee 3.0 Diesel. I now have a '17 Grand cherokee 5.7 gas. The gas is the better vehicle in my opinion. I would never own a 3.0 diesel again, but that's a whole 'nuther story for another time.