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Enough, let's see the books!

Discussion in 'General' started by CRRC93, May 13, 2018.

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  1. Jedb

    Jedb Professional Novice :-)

    Da fuq. P?
    You new here or summat?

    It took until this thread to have someone put up a working Trebuchet...
    :D
    @Ducti89


     
    Jedb, May 18, 2018
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  2. Canadian Bacon

    Canadian Bacon .

    All I can say is I like how JU puts up the expenses for AFF, not that there would ever be any doubt with him but it puts it out there for anyone who could ever have a doubt.
     
    Canadian Bacon, May 18, 2018
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  3. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member



    You should ask JU about Walter and Ryan trying to rip him off at Cota.

    Steven
     
    VFR#52, May 18, 2018
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  4. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    Whoops its early.
    Walter is race director and Ryan is on BOD now and has been 2nd to Walter for yrs working for Cmra.
    Im sorry i forget people dont know everyone who runs or works at club.

    Steven
     
    VFR#52, May 18, 2018
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  5. Sabre699

    Sabre699 Wait...hold my beer.

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    Sabre699, May 18, 2018
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  6. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

    So, if nobody can see the records/financials, where do these numbers and claims come from?
     
    panthercity, May 18, 2018
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  7. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member


    As far as my post, my numbers come from the 4 years I had access to them (2008-2011). During the gap since then their grids have shrunk but their prices have increased so I would assume revenue is still roughly the same.
     
    Fonda Dix, May 18, 2018
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  8. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    The IRS records posted every yr gives total money count as how much Cmra gross income a yr.
    And funny thing is all this info is in the
    Kill all laywers thread elsewere on forum.
    Yet nothing but a flame job from some folks.
    Guess that 3 yrs and still going kinda makes people go hmmmmm.
    They did turn a profit according to them a few yrs ago and raised gate fees and entry fees to compensate. Lol
    Then lowered entry fees i think After racers voiced there opposition.
    But ive not been keeping up so maybe someone who knows more can bring more facts.

    Steven
     
    VFR#52, May 18, 2018
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  9. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Unless it's not their own money that's being spent on the defense.
     
    HPPT, May 18, 2018
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  10. shakazulu12

    shakazulu12 Well-Known Member

    You gotta admit, that Trebuchet is pretty damn awesome. Needs a WERA sticker for perfection.
     
    shakazulu12, May 18, 2018
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  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Not sure they're paying the attorneys out of their own pockets.
     
    Mongo, May 18, 2018
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  12. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    The trackday peeps tend to start with Ferrari money then stop doing the trackday thing when they lose a bunch of that Ferrari tire cash :D
     
    Mongo, May 18, 2018
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  13. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I'd be amazed for sure. I think we are around a million - with little to no profit.

    Looking at the gate seems great, until you add up all the expenses, especially at an event like CMRA where they feed the corner workers and officials and such. All of that adds up really quickly.
     
    Mongo, May 18, 2018
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  14. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    That's what I'm saying, hell two trips each to barber and road Atlanta, alone is close to 200k a year is it not?
     
    noles19, May 18, 2018
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  15. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Yep.
     
    Mongo, May 18, 2018
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  16. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    Mongo, I would imagine your travel expenses, and likely your insurance, is considerably more than the CMRA, just due to geography. Additionally, you tend to rent some really nice tracks. They use the same 4 over and over again. I dont have any evidence but I could see your expenses easily being double, yet your revenue is the same.
     
    Fonda Dix, May 18, 2018
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  17. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I have definitely thought it would be nice to run just one region with a lot less travel and more ability to do promotions and such since we wouldn't be somewhere else across the country. However, the travel expenses for those of us in the office are a tiny portion of the vast majority of events we attend. The overwhelming majority of event expenses will be the close to the same other than track rental.
     
    Mongo, May 18, 2018
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  18. jpence

    jpence Well-Known Member

    The cmra charges significantly less for race entry. Plus has endurance which doesn't generate nearly as much revenue compared to the track time.

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    jpence, May 18, 2018
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  19. jpence

    jpence Well-Known Member

    Race entry fees were marginally raised but they allowed for more discounts if you race both Saturday and Sunday (ultw sprints and big bike sprints). I doubt 2018 is going well due to the first 3 rounds being absolutely shitty weather and therefore low entries.

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    jpence, May 18, 2018
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  20. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    Thanks Jordan. I only know the CMRA so I had no idea about WERA fees or structure.
     
    Fonda Dix, May 18, 2018
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