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Class C RV's

Discussion in 'General' started by JTRC51, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. assjuice cyrus

    assjuice cyrus Well-Known Member

  2. jksoft

    jksoft Well-Known Member

    Description says 4 door fridge, but the photo looks like a standard size fridge with two doors. I might be missing something though. I know you said the big fridge was a must have. I think the larger fridge was an option that this model didn't come with. Of course everything is upgradeable and some things are easier to upgrade than others. No outdoor TV either. Other than that, I really like this one. Seems like it checks most of your boxes and good bang for the buck. A '17 should have a lot of the initial bugs worked out.
    Funny how that Ford dash looks almost identical to our '07.

    I'll just add this. As you have been going through this shopping process and the talk of the low manufacturer interest rates, we started discussing whether or not it was good time to upgrade our 07 Outlaw. We went through the same thing last year when we went to the Cleveland RV show. After looking through the floor plans of newer models (and the prices) we came to the conclusion we are good with what we have for a few more years. It has its issues but we know what they are and how to work around them. There are a few features on the newer ones that would be nice to have, but not worth another mortgage payment. The built in outdoor tv would be nice, but I have rigged up a mount inside one of the basement compartments. We store the TV on the master bed or the garage and when we want to use it outside we just have to carry it out there and drop it on the mount and plug it in.

    We may just roll this one to the junkyard when we are done with it like the last one. It is surprisingly difficult to find a junkyard that will take an RV. Finally found one about 40 miles away. The reason we were getting rid of it is because the belt had broken and it overheated, which eventually led to a knocking piston. It was literally a ticking time bomb. I was too cheap to pay for towing so opted to drive it to the junkyard. It was nerve-wracking and loud...I was expecting a piston to come through the floorboard at any moment, but I made it there. The junkyard owner was going to use it for storage/office and he called me a week or so later and said when he fired it up to move it, the engine blew up, so I made it just in time (he knew all about the engine issue and took it willingly).
     
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  3. assjuice cyrus

    assjuice cyrus Well-Known Member

    Yea, wife says she could possibly bend on the fridge if the right one came.

    Also not sure if 30ft is long enough. but again we are going racing not living in it.

    I will look at the other ones the dealer has we are going to go look at saturday and see what eveyone thinks.
     
  4. assjuice cyrus

    assjuice cyrus Well-Known Member

  5. ChemGuy

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  6. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM CAMPING WORLD!!!

    Can the master bed be utilized with the slide retracted? Because the retractable overhead will be useless, under way, and your kids/wife will want a place to lay down.

    I assume the generator is right under the left slide (only compartment doors large enough)? If so, I wouldn’t want the generator exhaust under a slide. Slides leak air and that WILL be a CO2 issue. If one can’t affix a Gen-Turi to the exhaust, the detector will shut down the party. You want a Gen-Turi, from day #1. If a unit can’t accommodate one, I’d take a pass. It’s that big of a deal.

    I wouldn’t let the fridge size be a deal breaker. You only need enough food for a few days at a time. Regular grocery stops are going to be the same deal as regular fuel and dump stops.

    Have you been looking at FB Marketplace and Craigslist? Tons of deals to be had. And, I’d rather buy from an owner who is more likely to be candid and honest about the unit than any dealer, especially Camping World.

    ^^^Response to post #341.
     
  7. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    Make sure the cab over bunk has an actual pad. Many just have a crappy air mattress that needs to be re-inflated a couple times a night.
     
  8. TurboBlew

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  9. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    #1.) Has dirty carpet (yuk!) and raised tunnel between seats, which you didn’t want. I wouldn’t either.

    #2.) Has a raised floor between the seats. Dinette and couch look cheap. No pics of master BR. Can the bed be utilized with the slide retracted?

    #3.) Has a raised floor between the seats. Can the bed be utilized going down the road?

    #4.) Same as #3. The bed looks like it folds, so no use of it.

    #5.) The layout doesn’t make sense to me.

    I’m really big on having a bed that’s functional, going down the road. People get tired, while traveling. People not driving need something to do or a place to hang. No one wants to spend entire days sitting at a dinette or on a non-reclining couch. It’d be like spending the day sitting at a restaurant. There are floorplans with north-south master beds. I’d be looking at those or possible a bunk bed arrangement. Bunk beds seem to always be placed by the master, which means no privacy for mom and dad.

    You’re well into pusher money and I’d go back to looking at them. They’re a much nicer driving experience and coach quality. Their plans seem to favor north-south master beds, because of the engine compartment.
     
  10. assjuice cyrus

    assjuice cyrus Well-Known Member

  11. jksoft

    jksoft Well-Known Member

    Have done some shopping, never purchased from camping world. We did buy from General RV and there are similar reports on them. I think it just depends on the dealership and the sales person. We didn't have any complaints. As the buyer, you have to take on some of responsibility as well for asking the right questions and checking things out.

    I agree on the fridge. We don't have a large one or a "residential" one which seems to be all the rage these days. Perhaps that makes more sense for full timers. Ours keeps things nice and cold, with or without power, and we have had no issue fitting enough food in there for 3-4 days.

    Oh and you will run into the issues discussed previously regarding financing if you go private. Not impossible, just more challenging. That was one of the reasons we ended up at General several years ago.
     
  12. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    No. The only people who’d give them positive reviews are those who, either, haven’t been around motorhomes very long or haven’t had a problem, yet, with what they bought. CW consistently gets bad reviews, frontend and backend. They charge you more for stuff in their accessory showroom than what they do online. That’s a blatant FU, in my mind. Get around full-timers and seasoned RVers and it’s nothing but horror stories. Don’t set yourself up for a shitshow, if you don’t have to. And, “nationwide service” is a common selling point they use. The reality is, you go into the queue just like anyone else; no priority, no nothing.

    My experience with them made feel like an inmate. When I have to walk into a building to acces a lot to browse, when I have to be escorted everywhere I go on the property, when I’m not allowed to access a lot without giving out all my personal info, when I’m bombarded with follow-up contacts, I’m in a controlled environment. Even worse, my salesperson was a 20yr-old girl who knew zilch. It was a terrible experience.

    By contrast, my experiences with three different family-owned dealers were welcoming and relaxed. Ultimately, I purchased from one of them, who allowed me all the time and freedom I wanted. When the salesman had answered all my immediate questions, he said “Take all the time you need. If you need anything, just shoot me a text. I’ll come find you.”. The dealer GM even interrupted a meeting he was having in a coach, when he saw me, out his windshield, attempt to access the very unit I ended up buying (someone missed unlocking it that morning). He even invited me into the motorhome where he was having this meeting to talk to the factory rep. Together, they went with me to another motorhome I was considering. I visited them three times, before purchasing. They delivered it, ~100mi away to storage facility where I kept my pickup. When I became ill, the GM and salesman worked with me to help get the thing down to them, get me a rental car, and followed up, checking on me. It truly was a great buying experience, with really nice people. The salesman is a stellar dude, professionally and personally.

    Dave Hubatka
    Byerly RV-Eureka, MO
    C: (314) 620-1488
     
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  13. jksoft

    jksoft Well-Known Member

    This sounds more like my experience with General RV in Akron/Canton. Sorry you had such a crappy experience with CW.
     
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  14. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    I remember you mentioning your experience.

    I don’t get buying experiences of anything being difficult. If someone shows up for something you offer, they’re already willing to give you their money. Why screw them around? Why try to fleece them? Why be an asshole? “Effortless” should be the sales keyword a business adheres to.
     
  15. assjuice cyrus

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  16. ducnut

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    I’d take that one over any of the gassers you recently posted. Thats a really nice coach. It appears the thing is livable with the slides retracted, but, double-check when you look at it. Full-wall slide! It’s CAT-powered, so no top-end worries. And, you have everything at your disposal to deal with anything that should arise with the powertrain or coach, whereas the gasser is going to a Ford commercial dealer to sit until some tech feels like messing with the drivetrain. Going to need a new master mattress, though.

    I really think you need to take one of these out on the road to get a feel for it. Then, grab a gasser and see the differences. Hwy 30 is close enough to being an expressway, so you’ll get a good feel for it. You could do a loop over to Mansfield, then south, and back north. Whatever works, but, I’d take this one for a drive.
     
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  17. assjuice cyrus

    assjuice cyrus Well-Known Member

    Is it still a 13 yr coach. A diesel that is expensive to repair. And on the road repairs are all gonna be done at a semi repair facility at 100 plus dollar an hour.

    If a turbo goes out,pumps oil though the c.a.c your 5k or more in repairs.

    Not saying it's not a better coach,but is it what a 1st time coach owner needs to start with?
     
  18. TurboBlew

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    You could spend a few bucks on the front end having a shop look at the drivetrain.
    Then there is the extended service contract route...
     
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  19. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    As has been stated, the coach stuff is generic. It’s all pretty fundamental for someone with some aptitude. There’s more complexity over a simple Class C, but, it all works the same. And, there are online forums and tutorials to help someone along. Every metro area has major RV shops if you should need obvious/basic stuff, on the road.

    The drivetrain only has 50K miles on it. As you know, that’s nothing for a diesel. With your skillset, you’re not going to have any problem servicing it. It’s not like the turbo is giving up anytime soon. Brakes are a long way off. Steering components, too. I’d consider shocks, just because of age. Obviously, tire date codes need looked at. But, overall, I wouldn’t sweat it.

    You keep asking if it’s what you need. The reality is the same shit happens to all of them, whether you spend $50K or $250K. Likewise, gas or diesel both can have issues. I just know if I was a diesel tech, I’d rather work on my own stuff at home rather than having a gasser sit at a dealer for 3 or 4 months because no one wants to tackle it. And, that’s a real issue. I was refused an oil change by a Ford dealer and they told me they didn’t even want my motorhome on their property, should others see it and think they work on them. Even an independent shop refused to change my oil, because he didn’t want to slide under it on his back. You’ll quickly learn, you’re pretty-much on your own, with a motorhome. May as well get something you have intimate knowledge of and access to the resources to fix it.
     
  20. assjuice cyrus

    assjuice cyrus Well-Known Member

    I'm not concerned with working on either. I was auto tech for 8yrs then went to diesel. But there cost of ownership is higher with a diesel. I dont know that I'll need a Mh in 2 years. Lol
     

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