Supersport 300 World Championship

"Hey Paulo.. How do vee make de class rules for dees little bikes? You want I should go to zat yankee club site again and do zee copy and paste?"

 

I'm surprised you aren't already sleaving down a motor and removing a cylinder as we speak.

 

Seems they are taking a page out of Ducati's playbook. If you can't compete, get them to write the rules allowing you more MOTAAAAAAAA

 

Don't you mean paying Livengood to sleeve down a motor and remove a cylinder?

 

I have to agree with this. Running a national series, even WERA Nationals, is just so dang expensive with travel. I see some of the MA KTM cup racers running around spending all that money and finishing towards the back, over and over. Seems to my illogical brain, those racing families would do much better, to get their kid consistently winning at the local level. before wasting all the money to travel all over the country.

Plus it would help the young racers confidence to actually do well vs. backmark the national series.

 

Competitive racing is expensive, no two ways about it. I'd agree with your comments in regards to the 600 SSTK class, but I've come around on the KTM Cup. Sure, the back third of the grid could probably spend their money a little smarter, but the important experience they're getting is that they're actually racing other racers on like machinery as opposed to simply doing laps while a race was going on. I think the KTM Cup did as good a job as possible with the spec aspect of the series to encourage good racing and taught the young racers quite a bit that they wouldn't get at the club level.

 

So will this new class will replace the Euro Junior cup? If so, great- I'd much rather see 3-4 brands competing vs. a bunch of CBR650's.

 

I primarily agree with what you have said. However, if you agree on KTM cup, to me it is the same issue in 600STK. They both serve a similar purpose and one isn't limited by age and that same one won't penalize the big boys as badly either. Tyler actually said he would love to do a few rounds of KTM cup next year, at over 6 ft and whatever he weighs now, he is probably at a big disadvantage. However, that is a way he could continue college, hit a couple rounds, and see some of his old friends.

I'm primarily thinking that in a group of 30-50 kids, some of the slowest ones, that are consistently the slowest ones, would be better off staying close to home a bit longer. In my experience, there isn't an infinite amount of money to go around. It seems most families can only financially stomach, the national scene, for a short period of time, maybe 1-3 years. Why blow that amount of resources, if you are not consistently already "on the box" at the local road race events.

 

I'm agreeing with you on that point in regards to both the 600 and the KTM classes. Go club racing until there isn't anyone left to beat, then go pick a bigger fight. However, in regards to the KTM kids, there just aren't the grids to teach them a lot about actually racing at the club level.

I just had a race dad in the shop last week. He's got a rather fast kid who is still active in mini racing and has been racing WERA this season. While he's grateful for the track time and experience he's getting, there simply isn't anyone for him to race. If the KTM Cup is still around in some version by the time he's age eligible, it would absolutely be his best option.

 

Why does Honda get a 500 when they're supposed to have a badass 250 (probably a 300 if it comes to the US) ready to go?

http://www.cycleworld.com/2017-honda-cbr250rr-is-here-and-its-beautiful

 

I never saw the need to travel great distances to lose when I could just as easily lose close to home for a much smaller investment.

 

Honda is the Buell of the 300 class.

 

Good for track time, like a track day. But definitely not the same.

 

I think this is a conversation that can be debated forever. Here is what I suggest with kids I am associated with.... Get track time. Period. But if we have the choice of racing 30+ kids on identical bikes, we are going there. You know I stick my kids in WERA every chance I get but if there is an option to put them on the grid with 30 other kids, that is where we are going. The kids racing 30 adults is good but does not compare to racing 30 kids. My point, ride, ride, ride.... But a 95 pound kid racing a 95 pound kid will never equate to a 95 pound kid racing a 160 pound adult.

 

Sleeve down, it's already a floating sleeve... just need one made with less, hole?

 

Sean, do not put words in my mouth. You must be referring to someone else. And it worked out pretty good for us this year. And the parents didn't spend 20-50 grand.