Paging California Rob: welfare check

So Maynard James Keenan was wrong about the mechanism but right about the outcome?

 

Technically Bill Hicks. He coined the Arizona Bay idea that Keenan paid homage to in Aenima. And bravo draping a callous remark about a place being devastated to make a pop culture reference about eliminating pop culture.

 

You telling me they ain’t praying for rain?

And fuck your short memory!

 

The City of LA and wouldn't you know, highest paid doesn't get you the most qualified, go figure;
A report from Open The Books found that eight of the top 10 highest-paid city employees work for the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-power-officials-highest-paid-city-employees/

 

Those salaries are obscene.

 

I've been following along and don't have a dog in this fight...but I think the scenario you mentioned is exactly why the storage/conservation methods voted for would be important.

 

That was my point, that it seems most missed, except you. LOL

 

Oh I agree we need water storage and we don’t need a bullet train.

 

Was told this morning the rental place burned to the ground with all their contents inside.

 

Oh man sorry to hear that. I could see me moving to a rental Ike that and not getting contents insurance, and not even thinking about it.

 

Yeah I doubt anything was insured but I didn't get into that discussion with him

 

Lots of insurance was dropped around 6 months ago due to new laws not allowing insurance to increase rates. Several big companies pulled out state farm the biggest. All from a serious xm show

 

It looked like the majority of their comp was via overtime from the section of the article I could see not behind the firewall.

 

It's not a desert (technically not a dessert either), but more of a Mediterranean climate. That means temperate temperatures with dry summers and rainy winters (Dec-March). In that context, the statement that it hasn't rained since May can be misguiding. While true, it isn't supposed to rain from May to Oct. It might start in Nov, but more than likely rain should arrive in Dec. However, it's also a well-publicized La Nina year, which means especially dry socal while the PNW gets hammered. That, combined with shrub/grass growth from two years of heavy rain isn't a great combo.

It's also a little disingenuous to say that those affected should understand the area that they are living in. That would be a little like telling someone in Tuscaloosa that they shouldn't have lived there because the area is subject to tornados. And sometimes, similar to the case of Tuscaloosa in 2011, shit just happens. There are 100+yr old houses that were destroyed. This is not the case where a new development took over a known hazard area. We can try to blame whatever happens to annoy us in the moment (water rights etc...), but truth is we should take care of those affected first and then investigate the learnings when cooler heads can prevail.

 

[QUOTE=" We can try to blame whatever happens to annoy us in the moment (water rights etc...), but truth is we should take care of those affected first and then investigate the learnings when cooler heads can prevail.[/QUOTE]

There will be a lot of people to take care of when this is done and in the meantime. If anyone is in need or looking for a way to pitch in, https://www.fireaid.info/ or https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...QUVHYU_Ib6COz6jcGH5uJWDY/htmlview?usp=sharing

 

I’d say, that it hasn’t rained in 8 months isn’t “misguiding” at all as far as the cause of the fire, it’s actually the reason why it is so dry and fire prone. Trying to cite a high rainfall 8 months ago as somehow affecting current dry conditions, which is what was originally said, is simply wrong, as several people have already pointed out—this is supposed to be the rainy season again right now, and it’s still dry—and that is what poses such unusually high fire risk. And lots of rainfall 8 months ago actually made the problem worse because it significantly increased the fuel available to burn.

Sure, an uneven distribution of rain doesn’t necessarily mean Malibu is a desert, and can mean it is a Mediterranean climate, but that isn’t the point—the point is it’s tinder dry, right now, whatever you call LA’s climate.

And sure, it’d be nice if there was more water storage, but that wouldn’t have prevented these fires, it would only have provided another resource to use to try to fight them. The LAFD already has said while it could have helped, the presence of more water wouldn’t have prevented all this destruction, because the extremely high winds fed the fires and prevented use of aircraft in such winds until 24 hours later.

 

Yep, you can't effectively fight a fire when winds are over 40 mph

If you're there with your hose at the flame front, embers are flying by and starting spot fires that quickly grow to more fires

Next thing you know, you're surrounded by fire and it won't matter how much water you do/don't have.

Since the winds were double that, the fire front was moving too fast for effective suppression

 

What he is saying is to carry enough fuel jugs, to round trip through California, so you don’t subsidize the idiots…

 

^^ this guy gets it.

First time I drove back to Maine from Minneshitholia, I drove through the 51st state. At 4AM I’m at a gas station waiting for them to open.

20 gallons of fuel in the back of the truck every time since.

 

CostCo, or the NEX, both have 50 state fuel