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N2 split from WERA?

Discussion in 'General' started by Gino230, Sep 30, 2024.

  1. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Yeah, things that truly upset Evelyne...well they make me less than happy or polite :crackup:
     
  2. Knarf Legna

    Knarf Legna I am not Gary Hoover

    One of the most frustrating things for me as head tech and later race director was the unfair criticism of Westhold transponders, so much so I began tracking problems and documenting issues. 84% of transponder problems were user caused. Despite instructions for mounting them in the rulebook invariably someone would show up in tech with one mounted horizontally on the top triple tree with the antenna pointing to the left or right of the bike instead of at the loop. Some would show up without one mounted and when asked for it the response was usually "it's in the trailer charging". Dead batteries were good for another 13%. Only 3% of problems were hardware failures which amounted to an average of 2 per event.

    The vast majority of riders didn't know the difference between activated and non-activated transponders, witnessed by them testing non-activated transponders at our tech mat.

    The G3 was extremely reliable if it was charged, the hard wired transponders only had issues with improper installation. The activated transponders had a limited battery life, but I've seen some that lasted 3-4 years. We had a few issues with feedback on the R1 harness for wired transponders but they were easily resolved.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2024
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  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I know they were a ton cheaper but one of the main reasons we went with and stayed with AMB is our failure rate for the hardware was/is maybe 10 total since 1998 and that was one of the more recent styles they had with a known hardware fault.
     
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  4. Knarf Legna

    Knarf Legna I am not Gary Hoover

    That's pure horseshit. As head tech for the East Coast regions safety was the primary concern in tech. If I had a dollar for every drain plug or oil filter that wasn't wired, every rear brake that didn't work, for every loose clip on found, well...

    Kinda ironic that you bitch about bringing gear to tech for a safety check yet accuse CCS of not caring about safety.
     
  5. Wheel Bearing

    Wheel Bearing Professional low sider

    So your entire argument is based on a hypothetical. Got it.
     
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  6. Wheel Bearing

    Wheel Bearing Professional low sider

    Tech is largely useless anyways. The amount of racers I've seen on any given weekend changing their oil, wheels, and brakes kinda makes safety wiring a moot point. Of course every racer has a different routine, but I've always gone through WERA tech with my worn ass take offs since I'm just going to swap the wheels right after anyways, but never have time after sitting in the registration line...
     
  7. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan Taking victory laps fuckers!!!!!

    So you’re bitching about something that didn’t really happen???? Ghey!!!
     
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  8. rpm894

    rpm894 Well-Known Member

    I’m too new to know and too fat to endurance race, but why hasn’t WERA been doing the endurance racing on their own? How did N2 get involved?
     
  9. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    WERA did Endurance racing for many years until competitors lost interest in it and stopped participating. N2 in partnership with WERA began slowly bringing it back a few years ago until it became a series again.
     
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  10. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    Listen, asshole. There are very fine people on both sides. :D
     
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  11. 27

    27 Well-Known Member

    There is no better way for riders of all skill levels to learn and hone their craft…
     
  12. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    :Poke:
     
  13. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    Werd
     
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  14. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    Since I do race a lot, it's possible that all 16% of the hardware / battery issues you saw were from one of my 5 transponders. :Poke:

    Usually it wasn't a hardware issue, you're correct about that. But when you have a sealed unit with an internal battery that isn't rechargeable, it's a recipe for disaster. And I used to send them back every winter for new batteries. The G3 was a different story, but I got one race out of that before CCS Dumped Westhold.

    The MyLaps by contrast has never let me down in 7 or 8 years of racing.

    If anyone needs a nice G3 with 1 weekend on it, PM me!
     
  15. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    With the trades though, we kinda know it going in that we're training the next crop, no? It is after all how we were taught. Seems like this situation might have a slightly different flavor.
     
  16. JPG671

    JPG671 Well-Known Member

    Huh? 50 years ago it was ERA, not WERA. When I started racing with ERA (1976) it was run by Dr Peter Frank and his wife.
     
  17. YamahaRick

    YamahaRick Yamaha Two Stroke Czar

    You have less than seven minutes to delete your ignorance.
     
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  18. 27

    27 Well-Known Member

    It was just a fibula that time the ankle ball was shattered from the swing arm spool that broke off in my boot… bike was rideable and we made the restart minus the windscreen that we added at the first pit stop(no work on bikes under red)

    You know it’s hard to tell that story without sounding conceited… I’m really not… and think I did ok racing sometimes… it’s not like I posted the stories written and printed about it… you guys are ruthless enough as it is :D

    one of my favorites was our main competitors who wrote for RRW telling the story of them finding out the next day when I had a cast they ask “what happened?” I told them “I crashed in T1 at 150 and caused the red flag! You saw it!” They said “you rode two more stints and kicked our ass! With a broken leg?!?” To which I said “how’s that make you feel?”

    about half of my funniest racing memories are from that one season that we did the endurance series from the Rez as I was there putting on the Cherokee Challenge(like a mini Xgames) great friends making memories… and winning a championship in our spare time ;)
     
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  19. Knarf Legna

    Knarf Legna I am not Gary Hoover

    This guy buys them.

    http://ectransponders.com/
     
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  20. Razr

    Razr Well-Known Member

    Thanks.....I think!
    I guess it's been about 20 years since my first trackday with Nesba at Putnam Park.
     
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