I envy anybody who gets to ride on it. I sent my pics to Steve Keener and he said he will post him when he gets home from work tonight. If you can look at the pics and not want to ride on it then possibly you should try motocross. But then again you should have seen Budd's Creek for the Motocross des Nations. They resurfaced it and made it faster. It was not a bad thing. TPM will have a blast Monday.