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Sad to see endurance series fail

Discussion in 'WERA National Endurance Series' started by EXPERT35, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. lateapexer

    lateapexer Local slow poke

    Mongo since Charlotte was brought up I have a question about that track. I know ama raced there once upon a time as well as WERA. What happened with that? I'm assuming its crazy high to rent and unsafe to ride but I was just curious about it
     
  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Way unsafe. Lots of walls and hurt riders. It was bad before but would be impossible now as the bikes have gotten faster.
     
  3. 24hr Grom Endurance. :clap:

    :D

    Only 1 set of tires. Maybe a rear change halfway through. And considering they get about 90mpg, there wouldn't be much to the fuel bill.
     
  4. stickboy274

    stickboy274 Stick-a-licious Tire Dude

    "Run until you have to go to reserve"

    Later that day

    "he got tired after his 2.5 hour stint and passed out."
     
  5. rwood64083

    rwood64083 Gifted as in 'DUHHHH'


    :up:
     
  6. Metalhead

    Metalhead Dong pilot

    I hate that the endurance stuff is gone. I never got to do it. I'd like to. I don't know if this helps at all but, I'd be willing to put up $100 out of my pocket for an endurance race at Road Atlanta. I know it ain't much but, hell, I figure if I start the ball rollin now, maybe we could make this happen. Hell, look at what Russell did at VIR. That was a badass sprint race. Surely we could cover some costs and make an endurance race happen.

    Anyone want in?


    I'm game.



    Road Atlanta 2016. BAM!:cool:
     
  7. gixxernaut

    gixxernaut Hold my beer & watch this

    Buy-in for an endurance race is pretty hefty. It used to be $125 / hour for the race fees, so a 4 hour endurance cost $500. You're going to wear out at least one set of tires depending on what you're racing, so toss in another $400. If you just run pump gas you can generally get away with about $100 in fuel. If you're lucky and nobody wads the bike up your only other costs for the race are going to be routine maintenance, wear and tear on the machine, etc. And of course beer.

    Of course most teams would split the $1000 we just ciphered evenly, so depending on how many riders you had you might end up (per person) splitting roughly the cost of a race weekend.

    The problem is that endurance doesn't generate near the revenue for WERA that sprint races do. It sucks but that's the reality. If WERA can put 3 races / 16 bikes per hour on the track, each rider paying ~80 to race they generate $15,360 in revenue in 4 hours. If they put 16 endurance bikes out there for 4 hours, each bike paying $125/hour they generate $8,000 in revenue. Huge difference.

    And if they have a fiasco like Roebling last go around where there were 4 bikes for 4 hours, well ... huge loss.
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2015
  8. Metalhead

    Metalhead Dong pilot

    Welp, my idea sucked. I'm out.:D
     
  9. gixxernaut

    gixxernaut Hold my beer & watch this

    Didn't suck, I liked it. Just wanted to point out the magnitude of the problem. In order to make it viable against sprints WERA would nearly have to double the per-hour entry fee and get attendance up.

    10 to 13 entries had become commonplace during the last couple of years, and as I mentioned Roebling's 4 entry weekend pretty much sealed the fate of the series.

    Making it more expensive while enticing more folks to buy is a hard sell.
     
  10. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Very well written! just to add to this, there are tracks where rentals are a lot less, where the smaller endurance grids would hurt less if they happened. but people don't want to just race there they want road A, barber, vir, etc. which are very expensive to rent.
     
  11. baconologist

    baconologist Well-Known Member

    I'd go to CMP for a XR/CRF/Grom enduro.
     
  12. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    bring 30 of your friends at 100$ and pick a date!
     
  13. CMRA 270

    CMRA 270 Comes here for the latest CMRA gossip

    Our heavyweight series is still kicking but is declining slightly...but our lightweight series has exploded.

    There is certainly a cost difference between the two to run, but it's not huge...maybe $50 a rider? Could be more on a litre bike (almost no team runs them).

    Endurance is huge fun and a great value. Many guys/gals in our club endurance exclusively.
     

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