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Opioid Crisis??

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Britt, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

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  2. crashman

    crashman Grumpy old man

    :crackup:But Dr. Dern, why are both your hands on my shoulders...
     
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  3. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

  4. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Never mind that, just pick up that soap I dropped :D
     
  5. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    AB?
     
  6. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Aryan Brotherhood.
     
  7. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    drove home on Naproxen or Hydrocodone quite a few times. cheaper than an ambulance ride.
     
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  8. R Acree

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  9. crashman

    crashman Grumpy old man

    I will use advil, alieve, etc. to make myself more comfortable but I could still get home without them if I had to. If I am hurt bad enough to consider taking any hard core pain pills I definitely should not be driving. And the way I react to opiates I would be safer driving drunk than on hydrocodone anyway...
     
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  10. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    They allow them because properly used they are very good. Remember the year I got run over at Grattan? Yep the first week or so was a crap ton of pain and I have to admit I was watching the time on the way home until the next pill. But I never exceeded the prescription no matter how much it hurt and once done never asked for more. Not even sure what it was now as it doesn't matter though it was one of the big pain killers. So perfect example of it working properly and helping someone.

    I know Brett has been taking stuff but can you even imagine how much that had to hurt and likely still does? Loose a leg and all the exposed nerves and stuff. Again though once healed he needs to stop the crap (and I expect he will). So again the drugs would be beneficial for a tough situation and a blessing. But yes they can be bad also and I suspect due to the time he has taken them it will be a back out slowly thing.
     
  11. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Yep screw everyone else on the road when you have a couple of hundred bucks on the line right. Not like other dumbasses haven't killed innocent families because they were fine to drive.
     
  12. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    There's a difference. But I know what you mean.
     
  13. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    Exactly. Some get knocked out , some don't even get a slight buzz
     
  14. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    If they get the job done, how are they going to be able to request more money and more employees to solve the crisis?
    Regardless of the purpose for which any bureaucracy is created, its purpose becomes its own survival.
    Refer to the TVA for a great example.
    Or even your own local Government-controlled, administrator-heavy, specialist-heavy, consultant-heavy (consultant is shorthand for "they hired me to do the job but I don't have the required skills or knowledge so I'm going to hire someone else who does to do the actual work") school system.
     
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  15. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    I have to agree that if you need anything stronger than OTC pain relief, you shouldn't be driving home.
    That self-prescribed pain relief could mask signs of serious injury, including internal bleeding.
    It may not be the drugs that cause you to lose consciousness while driving.
    Suck it up and go to the ER, and if they say it's okay, take the pain meds and let someone else drive you home.
     
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  16. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Of course add in that I claimed I was fine after being knocked out to get my shoulder cut. On waking up I claimed I was fine to drive, mom drove me home. I don't even remember the conversation but didn't have keys so it was cool.

    If you really can drive fine on Oxy you are a junky that should get help.
     
  17. terminus est

    terminus est Be prepared

    Oxycodone and heroin are almost the same. Oxy is preferable because it is more consistent, until the scrip/dealer/insurance run out. Then on to the heroin.

    A friend used to go to a local cvs, say the magic word, and leave with a big bag of OC (oxycodone). He's been dead for a while now.

    It's the same model as soft drinks and cigarettes, the manufacturers don't give a shit about anything except profits. Get 'em hooked, get rich.

    We live in a corrupt money worshipping society where human life is not valued.

    FDA recently allowed OC for 12 year olds. Get 'em young.

    Opiate addiction is intense because t is physically addicting as well as psychological. Many are not mentally strong enough to throw that monkey off their back nor do they want to due to the nature of the addiction.

    Deep down I feel these drugs were pushed by big Pharma because it was guaranteed big profits.
     
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  18. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

  19. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    Don't worry....it'll keep getting worse ;)
     
  20. In Your Corner

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    It would be a big plus to take the money they waste in the War on Drugs and use it to make treatment available.
    No matter what you think of the people who got there, arresting them or just treating them for an overdose and letting them go is about the worst way I can think of to deal with the problem, and obviously doesn't work.
    Doubling down on all of it won't work either.

    The healthcare system can find money to turn men into women but can't field enough affordable or free beds for people in immediate need of a lifeline.
    Now we spend tons of money chasing and arresting and trying and jailing lots of drug dealers who are immediately replaced with new drug dealers. A lot of people obviously like this arrangement because it goes on and on.
    Money is going into the right pockets, evidently.
     
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