New Tax Reform thread

Appalachian poverty, while not comparable to the 3rd world, is still pretty brutal. Its considerably worse than what I have seen in urban ghettos.

 

And what? You said "not sure where there is rampant poverty in the US" (a comedic assertion on its face). I played along and did the Googling that you neglected to do and showed you that there's "rampant" (as defined by ~10% of the population) poverty in the US. When confronted with facts that disproved your narrative, you moved the goalposts.

 

Isn't it funny how poverty is measured by income and not net worth?

 

I've been called worse

 

Worse than snippy?

 

It's easy to sit here in the US and say "I have all the things I need", but the amount of effort I have to put in now to have the same house, car, food that boomers enjoyed is infuriating and only getting worse for those younger than me. The vast majority of us - moderate middle class - are beholden to a debate between two extremes at all times (rich/poor/rep/dem) that doesn't ever actually consider us.

I'd love policies aimed at those of us who aren't in poverty or wealthy.
"You paid every single mortgage payment while the bankers got bailed out and the less fortunate (or delinquent) got forgiven? Here's YOUR reward."
"You have worked full-time and paid taxes for 10/20/30 years straight? Here's YOUR reward."

 

I’m just curious about the bill’s actual effect on the debt.

 

Now the national debt concerns you?

 

The thing of it is poverty is a number established by the government as a means to determine if someone or household qualifies for public assistance, section 8 rent, food stamps, Medicaid and other free government services - free school lunches, subsidized healthcare. So these levels below are not a true reflection of a person/household total income.

So using “poverty” numbers and government statistics to illustrate true poverty is somewhat meaningless as it doesn’t provide an accurate assessment of a persons/households total benefits etc. I could live decent enough on $16,000 for two if my rent, food cost and healthcare were paid for. Poverty as defined by the government is a far cry from true poverty.

Persons in Household. 2017 Federal Poverty Level
1. $12,060

2 $16,240

3 $20,420

4 $24,600

5. $28,780

 

Exactly my point and something that libtards refuse to acknowledge.

 

You obviously don’t have an accurate idea on how poverty levels are calculated and how and what they are used for.
Look deeper into your lazy google attempt.

 

Wonder what the Ratio of "living in poverty" for Government workers is as compared to Private Sector... (excluding military employees)

 

This thread is about taxes. If you are so concerned about the national debt go start another thread about government over spending.

 

Oh how did I miss this post?

Tell ya what. You work as hard as the boomers had to, you'll have my sympathy. Your life is a fucking featherbed of marshmallowy comfort compared to what they endured.

 

I knew an Appalachian guy whose relatives live in eleven different households...the houses are all built with beautiful hardwoods.
He has like sixteen brothers/sisters. The other households of his relatives, I suspect, have similar numbers.
Financially, they are poor. Life-wise, they own the half of the mountain they all live on.
So, what? They're poor cuz they dig up their own potatoes?
I'd gladly live my life away from this demonic financial scheme to which we're all subjected...and I would consider myself wealthy if I could do so.
Just sayin'.

 

Stamp car parts with a machine while their wife was at home not paying for daycare and dreaming of their guaranteed pension?

People who go it on their own have the same hustle now they did then, but in terms of mass employment for the "middle class", there has never been nor will be a more entitled generation.