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MM's win pending crank inspection

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by BC, Aug 17, 2008.

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  1. Strick

    Strick Good to be king

    I agree. I would think the other teams have somewhat of a right to know. I also think total transparency so everybody including the fans know what is going on. Keeping under cover breeds rumor, and leaves people to wonder why they won't release the info.
     
    Strick, Aug 21, 2008
    #141
  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    It doesn't matter though. List the specifics and people will still think it's not everything or say that it's a lie or whatever, there's no real good reason to release any details other than you being nosy :D
     
    Mongo, Aug 21, 2008
    #142
  3. Hordboy

    Hordboy B Squad Leader

    You're right about that, Joe.

    Primary gear machined differently?

    Am I still allowed to guess? Not allowing guesswork and conjecture on the WERA BBS would kill it dead. ;)
     
    Hordboy, Aug 21, 2008
    #143
  4. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    A right to know what? Which things they're doing that they might get caught on? :)

    They know what they need to - it's illegal. End of story. Keep legal parts in your bike and no worries.
     
    Mongo, Aug 21, 2008
    #144
  5. JBall

    JBall REALLY senior member

    On the other hand it just gives ideas on where to cheat next...(or find the next "grey" area in the rule book)
     
    JBall, Aug 21, 2008
    #145
  6. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    It would add some credibility to the report, I am far from the only one who wants to know....Everyone does...well except you...and you only care whats for dinner...:)
     
    Britt, Aug 21, 2008
    #146
  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Oh I want to know too - but I realize that it's because I'm nosy and me knowing would change absolutely nothing in my life.
     
    Mongo, Aug 21, 2008
    #147
  8. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    OK so what is the reason they don't list it...?? :) (Cuz some Nimrod, said not to)
     
    Britt, Aug 21, 2008
    #148
  9. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Honestly, dunno. I don't release info either because it's no ones business but mine and the team/rider in question. I also agree with Joe to an extent about not wanting people to know specifics of what we can find or what we're looking for.
     
    Mongo, Aug 21, 2008
    #149
  10. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    LOL.....ok, I am going back to the SV, it is close..


    Sorry Mat, run it thru the Appeals Process mate...:up:
     
    Britt, Aug 21, 2008
    #150
  11. Pepe Le Ghey Pew

    Pepe Le Ghey Pew Banned

    IMO...as part of the punishment...Teams should have to announce that they did cheat, and for doing X to the bike we were DQ'd.

    If they wanna cheat like a baby...then why not be treated like one!:up::D
     
    Pepe Le Ghey Pew, Aug 21, 2008
    #151
  12. caferace

    caferace No.

    From a great distance.

    -jim
     
    caferace, Aug 21, 2008
    #152
  13. (diet)DrThunder

    (diet)DrThunder Why so serious, son?

    The natural reaction to a lack of information in such a circumstance is speculation that there is a specific reason that the information isn't being provided. In turn, what was probably no big deal had it been known, becomes a big deal, for fan and co-competitor alike.

    Also, what is the point of not providing the information? There is no good reason not to release the details.

    I say full disclosure is the way to go.
     
    (diet)DrThunder, Aug 21, 2008
    #153
  14. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Same argument in reverse - there is no good reason to release it and I can think of a couple I've already posted that are reasons not to release the info.
     
    Mongo, Aug 21, 2008
    #154
  15. Sig

    Sig Well-Known Member

    Do you have some limit of parts you can inspect when you do a tear down?

    I mean come on........if they are all 3 yosh bikes and you find one that you think is suspect.......wouldn't you check that in all 3?
     
    Sig, Aug 21, 2008
    #155
  16. kneedragger29

    kneedragger29 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't asking you neccesarily to make you do any work or find it as proof for me, rather, i wanted to read where they said 3 bikes were torn down (which i now understand with the help of KWS), but only Mats crank went to the AMA, as it WOULD make a difference as to why only Mats crank was found to be in violation.

    I've built AMA superbikes that i have had to tear down for the AMA on Sunday afternoon & then re-assembled them later that same day & took them home, so i do know why you get your parts back as well as why you wouldn't.
    Only suspicion of a violation would cause said crank(s) to go to to AMA HQ. The fact that Ben was not DQ's begs the question:
    Was Bens crank suspect, sent to AMA HQ & found to be clean? Or was it not sent at all?
     
    kneedragger29, Aug 21, 2008
    #156
  17. caferace

    caferace No.

    I don't think Mongo is going to tell you.

    Try here: [email protected] :D

    -jim
     
    caferace, Aug 21, 2008
    #157
  18. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Bens was not sent to OH. However, no one here knows if it was looked at as part of the inspection of his motor. My educated guess is it was and didn't have whatever Mladins did that made them suspect something.
     
    Mongo, Aug 21, 2008
    #158
  19. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    So Joe Gibbs team just "Cheated"....no specifics..."Interfered with the performance of the car".

    No magnets under the pedel...:)
     
    Britt, Aug 21, 2008
    #159
  20. Jed

    Jed mellifluous

    Italian Slipper Crank.
     
    Jed, Aug 21, 2008
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