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2017 WorldSBK Silly Season - You've Got To Be Kidding Me...

Discussion in 'General' started by The Great One, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    Shouldn't all you must knows be all over JU about the new Suzuki? He was just there and he'll know all about it. :D

    SWARM! SWARM! :crackup:
     
  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Not sure how much of that was Honda and how much was the marketing department for the series. :D
     
  3. stangmx13

    stangmx13 Well-Known Member

    i dont know. TenKate started as a privateer effort and still mostly is. im pretty sure they had no support in 2004 with Chris V. i kinda think that has continued. Honda seems to be providing $$ help now. But technical help from HRC seems to be lacking.

    thats Nakamoto and HRC in the MSMA trying to twist Carmelo's arm. the most recent spat was the ban on winglets. but there is no MSMA in WSBK. im fairly confident that Honda's influence in WSBK, if it exists, has nothing to do with Nakamoto/HRC.
     
  4. Prospect

    Prospect Hayai

    There is no way Honda will produce a bike that is capable of competing with the current ZX-10. Honda just love to disappoint. The only thing I love about Hondas is the component quality and the ease of riding (friendly chassis) . But now that chassis advantage is no longer a strength as the Kawi and Yamaha are a dream to ride, with the Yamaha having the advantage. Even though I hate Suzuki, I feel their GSXR will be better than the new Blade.
     
  5. jonathanp

    jonathanp Tech drop out

    I am not a Honda fan but the new 1000sp2 is kinda nice
     
  6. 418

    418 Expert #59

    So apparently Melandri is already on the injured list...
     
  7. The Great One

    The Great One Well-Known Member

    He can pull up a chair right next to Hayden. They'll both be fine for the season opener.
     
  8. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    Wasn't the RC51 designed as a big "fuck you" to Ducati?

    I just believe that if HRC wants to get serious, it will. Since we now nothing of the new blade it's kind of hard to make that call don't you think?
     
  9. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    I think Honda got tired of putting millions into getting small performance gain out of a maxed out 750cc V4. They saw how Ducati would bump up displacement as needed when the 750cc bikes started to give them a challenge.

    851...888...916...955...996...998

    vs

    749.....................................:dead:

    Plus, 2002 was a killer season between Bayliss and Edwards!!
     
  10. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    And the RC 30 and RC 45 were badass...but that grunt out of the corner from the Ducatis trumped them most of the time.
     
  11. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    Dude, the RC45 was a donkey cart full of goat shit.
     
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  12. vizsladog

    vizsladog Well-Known Member

    and
    that's being nice. the street bike came with a 16 inch front wheel. it was neutered to like 98hp . I had a customer who had one. it sounded nice but was not fun to ride
     
  13. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Take that back.
     
  14. Prospect

    Prospect Hayai

    Hell no, any manufacturer that releases compromised frames to the public deserves all the hate it can take.
     
  15. masshole

    masshole sixoneseven

    New to motorcycles?

    Google search:

    Honda frame recall
    Kawasaki frame recall
    Yamaha frame recall
     
  16. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    So Prospect hates everybody. :crackup:
     
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  17. Prospect

    Prospect Hayai

    Correct I hate everybody!

    Seriously though, research done and I only hate Suzuki slightly more than the rest.
     
  18. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    Hey maybe he can race a ducati or harley.
     
  19. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    Not arguing, looking to get educated.

    Why did Honda abandon the twin street bike platform then? If Ducati kept getting concessions for the twin, Honda could have used that as well?

    Was it more of marketing going back to the inline with the introduction of the RC211V in GP (unit pro-link marketing) or simply that WSBK allowed the 1000CC inlines?
     
  20. stk0308

    stk0308 Well-Known Member

    It's a tenuous link between a V-5(RC211V) and an inline 4(CBR). But, I do believe it was a marketing decision that was assisted by the rule change allowing I-4 motors to go to 1,000cc.
     

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