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Yamaha R9.

Discussion in 'General' started by SirCrashAlot, Mar 21, 2023.

  1. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    They always say competitive. But it varies on the true meaning. Some want dominant, others just want us to change everything because they bought a really oddball bike.
     
  2. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    But it's not. The 600SS class died effectively 2 weeks ago. It's now Next Gen SS with a whole new set of rules.
     
  3. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    I think this is driven by the need to be coherent in their model range, not by a need to make the R6 a thing of the past. The number matches the displacement. I realized in 1999 that the R1 was a mistake. It sounds cooler than R10, but it was going to be a problem if more models came out. And the R6 and R7 came out in the subsequent couple of years, messing up things.

    As you noticed, they did not hesitate (or maybe they did) to reuse R7 on a model that has nothing in common with the original and doesn't replace it. I would bet that if they came up with a 600 cc single supermono-type sport bike, they would call it R6.
     
  4. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    The results for club, not really when you go down through. It's still mainly 600's picking up more track time. Effectively the BSBK class is now Next Gen SS because of the stuff it allows for (triples, inserts, etc..)
     
  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Nope, we still have one that is 600 based.
     
  6. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    Oops.. I was speaking to MotoAmerica vs WERA and other clubs.
     
  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    They don't have a 600SS class and haven't for decades. :D

    Seriously tho, I do applaud them for not having a number on Supersport, especially since the next gen stuff.
     
  8. Chango

    Chango Middle Aged Curmudgeon

    I don't know about anyone else, but that's exactly how and why I got into track days 20 years ago - I took my shiny 2005 GSX-R 600 to the track because all I had to do was tape over the lights and pull the mirrors off.

    Normies aren't going to buy a purpose-built track bike just to see if they like it or not.
     
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  9. rpm894

    rpm894 Well-Known Member

    I didn’t say you couldn’t track a street bike.

    My thinking is that there would eventually be a market for purpose built track bikes, so costs would come down more in line with a street bike turned into a race bike. There would also eventually be a used market. So it might be costly at first, like we see with Kramers, but in the long run, it will be cheaper than buying a street bike and replacing everything. And be a better track bike.

    It is absurd the amount of parts that get thrown away from a stock R6 when making it a track bike.
     
  10. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't say it's a killer replacement, it's not as focused as the R6.

    They did a pretty good job, considering the price target.

    I would say the swingarm looks like an area where they cut cost.
     
  11. Chango

    Chango Middle Aged Curmudgeon

    That's all well and good, but some of us like riding more than 10 days per year, even if most of those days are spent at less than 25% of whatever skill/capability we may have.

    Kramers and the like are awesome and I would absolutely love to try one out someday (just to see how awful I really am), but I'm a working class guy and I care far more about feeding my kids than I do about having a purpose-built track bike.
     
  12. Tristan

    Tristan Well-Known Member

    I've re-read this a few times and really thought about it, and still have no fucking idea what the relevance is to the conversation
     
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  13. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

    'cording to someone who has an R9 on hand as we speak, swingarm is besoke to the machine and not the MT-09 unit.
     
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  14. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    You mean there wasn’t a market for used TZ’s, RS’s and RGV’s?

    And those bikes cost 2-3x as much as a track prepped bike “back in the day”.

    And remember the R7? Didn’t have piles of parts that got tossed when you tracked that machine, did you? Whatever happened to that?

    Purity is all well and good until you die from electrolyte flushing…
     
  15. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    I stopped trying after my second pass. I knew I was going to hurt myself.
     
  16. SpeedWerks Racing

    SpeedWerks Racing Well-Known Member

    So these RW models should really mess shit up more..
    https://lamoto.com.ar/noticias/yamaha-rw-motos-deportivas-clasicas-detalle/

    Yamaha is working on creating a new family of motorcycles. One that we will be going over throughout the article, although they seem to be sports models with classic touches . Or at least that is what the leaked patent invites us to think .
    The applications for registration were made to the European Union, with five models of different displacements under the same root: the RW series . Its bases? Well, we have to talk about the RW125, RW155, RW250, RW350 and RW700 .
     
  17. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    I thought everyone was just like me.... total your new streetbike (RZ350) on Ortega Hwy and you have no insurance. What to do? Too poor to buy new parts. Might as well tear all that broken stuff off and take it racing. (did this like 4X)
     
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  18. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    I’m detecting a pattern of repeated poor decision making… :Poke:
     
  19. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    Ya think?
     
  20. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    As rarely as possible. :D
     
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