MotoAmerica | Silly Season | 2025

Follow the money trail...then reorder the event to drag in KOB support fans. During the weekend you subject them to boring superbike and supersport races then finally end it with hooligans and baggers. Win win

 

It's a clever ploy by MA to keep the bagger crowd at the track for the 200. Duh.

 

Anybody notice the standard 1103cc Ducati V4 is pending homologation for sstk? FFS if they can balance every bike for NGSS what's so hard about balancing the 1100s for SBK? Throw a rev limiter on it and/or add some weight..

 

IMO, as i kind of said before, MA needs NEW Fans, not cater to the same people. Baggers are bringing in a new Demographic of Fan. Now... If you want that new Demographic to start caring about bikes/classes they've never cared about before you have to force them to watch it. If you put Baggers before Superbike, all the Bagger fans are leaving the second that race is over. But if you have Baggers at the end of the day you're forcing the Bagger fans to be present for all the classes getting more eyes on everything.

Just my .02 Cents.

This.

 

That’s not the point of SUPERbike. SuperBike is meant to be the pinnacle of production based bikes, developed to the point of borderline absurdity.

Besides, the only manufacturer with an 1100 that doesn’t have the potential to enter is Aprilia. Ducati has a homologation special in the V4R.

I know I wouldn’t want to be on a neutered RSV4 against a Tytler’s M1000RR even if it was legal.

Stock class balance is far easier to achieve.

 

Stock crank stock Pistons stock rods. Superbikes are already restricted it isn't like it was before. Yes they make stupid power because they are so good off the showroom floor, but there are restrictions. I'm all a out the RSV4. We wanted to race sbk last year but MA said no sstk1000 only.
Besides. these is already balancing in MA superbike. Suzuki gets to run their PAIR system as a crankcase vacuum pump, Yamaha gets to modify their connecting rods..

 

Sweet baby jesus riding a pogo stick, Bradley Smith is coming to MA to race a Harley Bagger.

 

It's probably a better idea too since that's when most of those guys will be awake.

 

I can promise you my friends at Ohlins will ensure that thing is NOT a pogo stick under him.

 

Pedantic question alert: Isn't "...the pinnacle of production based bikes, developed to the point of borderline absurdity." and oxymoron or at a minimum a paradox? Production motorcycles are supposed to leave the factory at the pinnacle of their development aren't they?

What this approach creates are quasi-prototypes too far removed from the production line to drive iterative improvement of the base product and not close enough to all out prototypes to challenge for top dawgs as the technical spectacles of two wheeled motorsport. Let's be honest, SBK has always tried to ladder up in prestige to GP racing, but hasn't been able to do it. Subsequently, it's drifted further and further away from relevance; technically and commercially.

It seems that you were answering the question from an engineers perspective, or maybe you weren't, but to me that determination to IMO over-engineer production bikes is what has led SBK to continue to decline in relevence. It's too far away from the bikes thaty ou and I buy today, but not quite the pinnacle.

 

Exactly. Let MotoGP race crazy overengineered bikes and give us relatable racing on bikes I could go buy. Shit, even if I could buy a superbike, I couldn't make any use of it over a superstock 1000. It all seems a waste to me over the stock1000 class.

 

There's really only one question that matters in the grand scheme: How much money will the fans pay to come watch the race.

 

Look who skipped the past 3 pages of this thread!!! Welcome to the party, another update for you is Baz is also on a Bagger so we have 2 Euro Fanboys - crazy huh?

lolol...

 

For anyone who still cares about Superbike. Smith confirmed for Flow4Law and Davies on SS1000.

 

Also MPR https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/mp13-racing-to-contest-supersport-and-talent-cup-for-2025/
Sneed in SS and Ella Dreyer in JR!

 

Chase Black in the Talent Cup !

 

I wish JMac was still riding one

 

J.Mc

That error has started wars where he's from!

 

B Paasch found his funding.