MotoAmerica | Silly Season | 2025

Between those two and the dirty bike riders, they damn near bankrupted Suzuki.

Good for them! :up:

 

A "key" sponsor has dropped from Warhorse's Daytona effort. What's up with that team and their shit luck with sponsorship

 

Attack Yamaha -Progressive Insurance, NGK. Warhorse Ducati - Parts Unlimited, Motul.

 

Do we really need superbikes, what if the top SBK riders went over to Supersport, as long as the racing is great who cares if its supersport or superbikes.

 

How would an unrestricted superbike build next gen SS, GSXR 750, R9, MV800 TRI 765, etc do against STK 1000 bikes?

 

Current rules have the SSP about 1 second slower in qualifying

 

As a spectator, I believe your right but I think superbikes is the main draw.

That may have been because their sponsors were always present. Suzuki example (M4 Valvoline EMGO TEAM HAMMER VISION WHEEL)

Interesting enough, HSBK just lost a sponsor so I'm sure it's getting the attention of the MA officials and organization because of the capital loss.

 

Race what people buy. Next Gen Supersport, hooligans, and Baggers are the right step. As was mentioned in the Cycle World podcast, Baggers needs to be made affordable enough for more large dealers to get involved. Now that the factories have figured out how to make them fast, they need to make all the fast parts available cheap to dealers.

In the long term, Superbikes are doomed like F1 (bikes not cars) was doomed in the 70's with the arrival of the original superbikes (bikes people bought).

After we get gold wings and R18's into baggers let's see some adventure bike racing! Add a short dirt section to the road course and make it a ginormous supermoto. Run it at the end of the day so you can clean up the track for the morning. Imagine VIR where they skip the front straight and send them through the woods and splash through the river then back on track at T1.

 

AFT did this last year (not sure if it's continuing this year): AMA Pro Racing Announces AFT AdventureTrackers Regulations - American Flat Track

 

American FlatTrack ran a AdventureTracker class in Sturgis. They called it a TT, but it looked more like a supermoto track. Not a lot of dirt. But it was definitely a testing of the waters. Big ADVs at that, 1250 PanAmericas as well as 1200 Triumphs and an Africa Twin.

 

Go to a race and watch the exit after the Baggers… You might change your opinion…

 

Rumor has it Gagne is still struggling with the arm pump issues after surgery. If that is the case what happens with his ride for the season.

 

Cool. I found a couple vids on YouTube. Looks like they ran an exhibition at Sturgis last year. Are they doing more this year.? Baggers started out as a sideshow like this and look what happened.

 

The reigning champs with a very popular champ rider on the bike should not be having this issue.

 

Hooligans for everybody! Make them run the Indy mile and a random TT on the same bike, for double points. This is America, dammit! We don't need no stinking clip-ons! Do our baseball players play cricket? Hell, no! Do our domestic race cars turn right? No, again! Fuck those Euro weenies and their GP races!

 

KOB is the last race in Daytona immediately after the 200. Same story last year. When did we start having the main attraction second to last? That's right, never. KOB IS the main attraction of the weekend. Maybe this is just Daytona and the rest of the season will be different, but its not a stretch to say that the baggers are already more popular that the superbikes/SSP.

 

They're last because they had a tendency to puke oil all over the track. Much improved now.

 

A support class is almost always put after SSP and SBK due to broadcast contracts and race distance agreements.

 

I won't be upset at the "doom" of Superbikes, as long as it's replaced with a cool "builder" class. The big draw to superbikes for me is the engineering, custom fabrication, and neat little bits like that. I know a lot of that is happening in the Baggers class and somewhat in the Twins class.

I want to see custom swingarms, triples, frame work, tanks, subframes, etc. I'm a designer/machinist/welder/fabricator for a living and i really enjoy that type of stuff. I know it's incredibly expensive, but that's my jam. lol

I've been saying for a few years now that they should make a naked superbike class, let them run custom swingarms, triples, forks, tanks, frame work, and even open up engine work (let them make as much power as they possibly want) Give them a better spec fuel, make them run flat bars, give them a spec ECU with NO TC, and NO WHEELIE control. Then let them party.