I don't think the spec tire rule is necessarily a bad thing. But it seems to me that choosing dunlop might have been a bad thing. Given the history of Dunlop's unreliability, I think the AMA may have chosen money over safety in an attenuated sense... Not saying DMG or AMA should have foreseen this necessarily, but clearly other manufacturers have better track records for safety. I can only assume that the Dunlop put in the highest bid and that was good enough. Maybe consistency and safety should have carried more weight when the decision was made...
Dunpop has a history of this... kind of hard to get over it when it happens again and again and again and again.
Please cite where I accused Dunlop of negligence. I'll save you the leg work. I didn't. Again, please don't quote my post and then issue a very general response to what other people are saying in this thread. My original point remains. It's not a "shit happens" situation and adding "it could have been worse" isn't a reasonable response either.
Not true. Dunlop would have gotten it stopped anyway. A few years agothey had a race shortened because they could not finish the race and knew it. Nevermind all the other brands could. In my mind that means the dunlop riders should have pitted (even thought it was at a "normal" race, not Daytona) and the other riders kept racing. Not their fault. But dunlop has the power.
Go to cyclenews.com and click on the digital edition then read page 14. I found this an interesting read.
Just as devils advocate. Kaw had a bunch of cracked/broken frames a few years ago, and I have seen honda frames bust in normal conditions too. As for suzukis frames breaking, the bikes are designed to be ridden. They are not designed to be crashed. That is what most people bitch about If they were breaking under use (as the one year that was recalled was, which is also the case of the Kaw and Hondas I speak of) then there is concern. Breaking in a crash, well....... dont crash. All bets are off when you take 400+ lbs of aluminum and start trying to go bowling with it IMO
But thats the AMA's fault for cowtowing to them... the race should not have been stopped for 1 manf failure when they others are fine.
I agree, but I assume Dunlop helps AMA pay their bills, and as such they can pretty much do what they want. Racing is a business after all.
They are a business. Their FIRST priority is to make money. Everything else is secondary. Yes, they have to have some sort of quality to make money but businesses have been known to cut corners, short change, etc. to make a higher profit. A business gambles on its decisions whether they will work or not. I would truly like to see the cause of the tire failures. And no, shit just doesn't happen. My friend ended up in a concrete wall about 8 years ago that ended a very promising career. Thank you Dunlop.
Although I'd love to see an apology, does anyone know if any other manufacturer has successfully completed a tire test there under the same loads/stresses?
Just give it a few hours,all of you will know what the AMA and Dunlop were thinking when all of this went down............stay tuned
I am in no way saying that there was something wrong with any bike that caused this, just that it seemed more prevalent on some bikes. Could be due to more front percentage or more aero front downforce or less for that matter.
That was 2005. I was sitting on the grass hill just across from the spot where Rolf Schumacher hit the wall when his Michelin's disintegrated. I spent alot of money to watch that 4 car parade that they called a race, but it would have been a disaster if they all would have been out there. Sometimes shit happens beyond any reasonable control. We try to figure it out and do better next time.
i thought i also read a report that in the winter testing they reversed the tire compounds on the bikes, accidentially if that's true, how can they be trusted with a rider's life at 180 mph + and inspire confidence BTW I actually like Dunlops and use them on my bike but this is not very good on their part