Voting Rights

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by ryoung57, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Do the people who don't get to vote thanks to any of y'all's innovative measures get out of paying sales tax?
  2. jrsamples

    jrsamples Banned

    I'd be ok with that. Good idea.
  3. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    I'm down with age, property ownership and US citizenship as the requisites.
    You pay taxes, you have a vested interest - whether or not you live there, it's one vote.

    What about the "rent only" type of citizen? Perhaps an active lease agreement for the current voting year with proof of residency.
  4. R Acree

    R Acree WTF

    Only if they accept zero public funded driving, no housing subsidies, no public wifi, yada, yada, yada.
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  5. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    That's an interesting approach to the "no taxation without representation" ideal.
  6. pickled egg

    pickled egg Art is subjective

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  7. R Acree

    R Acree WTF

    Meh... I actually prefer a sales based tax system. EVERYONE pays unless they buy nothing.
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  8. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    This is what got us to here. When enough of the population will vote for a group of leaders who promise to give them "free" stuff it becomes self sustaining.

    After the armed overthrow happens I'm proposing voting will be limited to 18yo and up who have paid income tax in the last year or 2. If you aren't working and paying income tax you don't vote. Maybe if you have 30years in paying taxes you get lifetime exemption. And if your on disability, you can vote, since you can't work.

    Quit working to find yourself, you don't get to vote after next year.

    Quit to raise kids, you get one year then no more votes.

    That way we won't have people voting themselves benefits galore.
  9. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    Not even close as to what "got us here" and every vote in the history of voting has always been self serving.
  10. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab

    So what did get us here?
  11. ton

    ton Arf!


    married filing jointly gets one vote or two? (i'm making the assumption we're not eliminating the vote of all the women (and men) who raise kids but don't "work")

    single parent raising kids on alimony get a vote?
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  12. crashman

    crashman Getting slower every day

    But that will never happen because it would take away the politicians ability to buy votes.
  13. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    It's a big part. Even with the decline in manufacturing jobs (the historic middle class) we wouldn't have GENERATIONS, not a year or two, but GENERATIONS, receiving welfare, snap, housing whatever you want any to call it.

    And at a time when nationally unemployment is at historic lows.

    When it's easier to not work, and maybe hustle a side gig, and get enough to get by there are lots of people who will do that. And they will keep voting for the people who keep giving them more 'free' stuff.

    I'm sick of paying for it.

    If you had to work to vote, a lot less people would keep voting to add more free stuff to people who don't want to work when there are jobs available
  14. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    up for debate.

    Could be a few years exemption, but having kids is not a permanent free voter card.

    In my world, the people who take care of themselves and contribute to the society thru work and therefore taxes, get to vote. You dont work, dont pay income tax, you dont get to vote.

    But it would never happen, and i know it would never happen. I can dream though......sigh....and try not to look at my year end pay stubs and see that YTD total on income, FICA, Medicare, etc....
  15. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    If I'm reading this thread correctly, what's being discussed is actually a "no representation without taxation" system.

    I kinda like it.

    Every penny you pay in taxes/fees/licenses/etc is a little bit more weight to the votes you cast. The taxes paid by everyone that the business(es) you own employs count a lower weight score toward your vote weight, too. The more you actually CONTRIBUTE to society, the greater voice you have in the management of it. If you're only a leech on the ass of society, you suck your dole & keep your trap shut.

    FUCKIN A! I really like it!

    I bet blockchain could make that happen.
  16. ton

    ton Arf!

    so much for the importance of the traditional family, i guess. it'd be interesting to see where the churches and republican party stand on that.
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  17. Lawn Dart

    Lawn Dart Difficult. With a big D.

    Then I'm certain any sort of qualification based on taxes would also be considered discriminatory, as it would be found to disproportionately affect minorities.
  18. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

  19. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    We'll do it like in France.

    Except instead of dorky ass yellow vests and barricades, we do it right and use body armor and .223.....

  20. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck


    Eff that. .50!!!

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