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Trump impeachment

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by gixxerreese, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Inst Tech

    Inst Tech ain't no half steppin

  2. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Hey it is that charge that matters....LYNCH HIM!!!! Just kidding sounds a bit to weird to be true. Funny though how the media loves to smear with allegations with thin to no basis when it is a Supreme Court Nominee but ignore things when it is a Democrat Committee member :timeforabeer:
     
  3. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Shit has to be true all of a sudden?
     
  4. speeddaddy

    speeddaddy Well-Known Member

  5. G 97

    G 97 Garth

  6. R1Racer99

    R1Racer99 Well-Known Member

    So why not question him under oath? I still don’t understand the argument against witnesses. Anyone have a simple reason not to put this guy (and others) under oath?
     
  7. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Is Hillary president yet?
     
  8. cav115

    cav115 Well-Known Member


    Tired of the fucking show.


    Even if he did use it, it`s not impeachable..

    There are real things to work on.
     
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  9. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    Geezus the crew of (D) managers are ASSHOLES.
     
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  10. kangasj

    kangasj Banned

    The house was supposed to do that....get the evidence. They were in too much of a hurry.....you know, so Trump couldn't affect the 2020 elections like he did in the 2016 elections....(total bullshit) Eff those damn dems and their games. They're on another fishing expedition...
     
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  11. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    The House brought an airtight case, why would the Senate see any need for more witnesses.
    The House heard from every witness they wanted and cared to follow the legal process to get.
    There is no reason to open new areas of investigation that the House didn't get around to,
    it's not what the Senate does. The House has brought no case and it isn't up to the Senate to
    make a case for them, it is their job to listen to the case brought and decide if there is a case.
    Trump will assert immunity anyway which would end up in court and Trump would win since
    Bolton was one of his top advisors. The whole thing would be a waste of time so why do it?
     
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  12. Handicapped Racer

    Handicapped Racer Well-Known Member

    Cause that will blow up the assertion that trump as I said months ago violated the Congressional impoundment act.
     
  13. blkduc

    blkduc no time for jibba jabba

  14. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    What article is that? :Poke:
     
  15. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    That's a big stretch there.

    Did Ukraine get the money? Did they get less money than was appropriated? That is the purpose of the Cong Imp Act. Sorry, it doesn't fit.
     
  16. Handicapped Racer

    Handicapped Racer Well-Known Member

    From my understanding of the Congressional impoundment act when I read it. If order for a Potus to hold up and not transfer the money how would have just merely let congress know that he was going to do. That's really it but he didn't he kept them in the dark.. Now what he could have done was say hey I wasn't to look into somethings first and then go from there. congress may have asked... look into what and Trump could have just not replied. I don't if that would have been a issue that would sparked and impeachment investigation but if not what would they had done. Written a letter.
     
  17. Handicapped Racer

    Handicapped Racer Well-Known Member

    I am not sure how it doesn't fit. the law on it is clear.
    This issue is he did withhold the money and we can argue when it was released but as reporting shows it wasn't released until questions were asked and the State Dept Lawyers informed the White House that continued holding of the funds were illegal. The first reporting I am seeing on the Hold was July 3, 2019 and the official call the OMB was July 18th. At that time by Law Trump was supposed to notify The House of Representatives and the Senate his intention to with hold that aid and then specify why, how much and the impact. He did none of that and that is one reason why he is being impeached.
     
  18. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    After three years of worthless investigations they would attempt to impeach him for jaywalking. He held the money until he was satisfied the people Honcharuk was surrounding himself with wasn't the same corrupt assholes from the previous admin. The money was released. End of story. If congress had a problem with it they could have simply asked him. Of course they didn't, because it wouldn't provide the dog and pony show they are getting now. When you have to poll to figure out which terminology sells better to the American people, you're case if full of shit.

    The act was to prevent a sitting president from permanently holding funds or blocking spending for things the POTUS didn't like. That didn't happen here. Could the dems use it? Sure, it hasn't stopped with the bullshit charges they have out there right now.
     
  19. Handicapped Racer

    Handicapped Racer Well-Known Member

    §683. Rescission of budget authority
    (a) Transmittal of special message
    Whenever the President determines that all or part of any budget authority will not be required to carry out the full objectives or scope of programs for which it is provided or that such budget authority should be rescinded for fiscal policy or other reasons (including the termination of authorized projects or activities for which budget authority has been provided), or whenever all or part of budget authority provided for only one fiscal year is to be reserved from obligation for such fiscal year, the President shall transmit to both Houses of Congress a special message specifying—
    (1) the amount of budget authority which he proposes to be rescinded or which is to be so reserved;
    (2) any account, department, or establishment of the Government to which such budget authority is available for obligation, and the specific project or governmental functions involved;
    (3) the reasons why the budget authority should be rescinded or is to be so reserved;
    (4) to the maximum extent practicable, the estimated fiscal, economic, and budgetary effect of the proposed rescission or of the reservation; and
    (5) all facts, circumstances, and considerations relating to or bearing upon the proposed rescission or the reservation and the decision to effect the proposed rescission or the reservation, and to the maximum extent practicable, the estimated effect of the proposed rescission or the reservation upon the objects, purposes, and programs for which the budget authority is provided.

    (b) Requirement to make available for obligation
    Any amount of budget authority proposed to be rescinded or that is to be reserved as set forth in such special message shall be made available for obligation unless, within the prescribed 45-day period, the Congress has completed action on a rescission bill rescinding all or part of the amount proposed to be rescinded or that is to be reserved. Funds made available for obligation under this procedure may not be proposed for rescission again

    It's clear as day.
     
  20. jrsamples

    jrsamples Banned

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