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Bert and Ernie were gay??

What was Oscar The Grouch?? Sometimes he played with his worm in the alley

 

In children's terms - it is making it a romantic relationship, not a sexual one. If Sesame Street wanted to start referring to Bert and Ernie as a gay couple (they don't and won't) it would be to highlight the romantic commitment they made to each other, not what type of sex they have.

Why would defining the commitment they have to each other focus solely on the physical when the physical wouldn't in any way be the immediate focus in explaining a romantic commitment between committed heterosexuals.

 

I don't even think they're that anymore, lol

 

Why is it necessary to define their commitment to each other as anything more than good friends, just as a child would relate to another child? The need to define them is adults transferring their desires onto children.

 

No

I would identify them as a couple, same as I would male/male or female/female. It defines the commitment of the two people for social context.

Do you believe that the same "why'd you have to make them gay" feeling would exist if the writer chose to say Bert and Ernie are a couple?

 

I think the adults are putting way too much thought into this.

Bert and Ernie are best friends. The live together, which to a young kid is the greatest thing- to share everything with your best friend.

No young kid should know about or care about the sex lives of these characters.

In real life, most families have gay branches. Some families include them, some families exclude them, and the kids learn from those examples.

Life goes on.

Tempest in a teapot, etc. etc. etc.

What is this trying to distract you from?

Are Bert and Ernie positive role models? Sure they are. Do they help a little kid understand why Uncle Bill lives with Uncle Bob? Of course it does.

Does whether Bert & Ernie are a romantic couple or not matter? No. They are committed to each other as is obvious from the show. They model the frustrations of living with roommates of any type, and the process of resolving conflict. It's all a good exposure for kids.

 

I've always preferred Bert and Ernie as gangsta rappers, not gay lovers.

 

My gay friends literally have 10 to 20 times the amount of sex my straight friends do, especially the young males and the chickenhawks. The old queens and lesbians, not so much.
And fwiw I ain’t saying nothing negative. I’m actually jealous.

Straight males might be more promiscuous but with less opportunity for random encounters. However, I don’t recall many straight glory holes or bath houses in my 49 years. Random anonymous sex was normal in Dallas in places like the trestle, flag poll hill, or Reverchon Park. There was no straight equivalent.

Beac, would you agree that the young gay male “culture” has high promiscuity and random partnering? I witnessed it for many years but it could have been an anomaly.

 

If single males are generally more promiscuous than single females, it seems pretty straightforward that single males having sex with single males will find more partners than those who seek single females. Doesn't mean that heterosexual ones aren't trying just as hard.

 

I assure you, I tried with at least as much diligence as my brother. His success rate was far higher...dammit.


Papa said hard.

 

While I'm not active in the gay dating scene, it sure looks different from the outside than it used to. Around here it seems to have almost moved so far into the main stream to be boring. Brunch spots now occupy most of the buildings that used to be 5am clubs.

 

David has been gone for 7 years and was out of the club scene a good bit longer than that. From what I've been told the club scene is different for hetero and homo has changed in the last 20 years quite drastically as more people meet through apps and other means.

 

I'd wager that single females are far more promiscuous than single males. Why? Because they can be. Being horny and being promiscuous are not the same thing. 1 is wanting it, the other is actually acting on it.

Any random horny guy doesn't have droves of women throwing themselves at him. Flip the script and I think you can figure that out on your own. Women are the gatekeepers of sex....men are the gatekeepers of commitment.

Now if you are talking gay men, then that's obviously a different story. Homosexual marriages are supposedly some of the most stable relationships around, it's theorized that is because many (most) are rather open to action on the side. Lesbian couples on the other hand are some of the most tumultuous, with more rates of domestic abuse and divorce than all others.

 

This is the gheyist discussion ever.

 

And just why is it you have droves of gay friends?