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Talk about a dead beat

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by G 97, Jan 12, 2020.

  1. G 97

    G 97 Garth

  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Dammit. I saw the thread title and thought that it was a honeypot to move the Pensacola Wars over here.
     
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  3. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    Fuck him!
     
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  4. jrsamples

    jrsamples Banned

    Well, the judge just cut off Bernie's legs. 1.6 T in student debt has been forgiven.

    Big win for the university complex.

    Big win for those who were once called "borrowers".

    Bad news for anybody who is not involved in the scam.
     
  5. G 97

    G 97 Garth

     
  6. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    So what's the likely result if student loans are allowed to be wiped out? In the future the only way to get a loan will be to secure it through collateral. That will be a bad result for those with no house or fairly rich parents. Of course I'm ignoring Uncle Sam (that means you and me). Silly me for and my kids for paying for our educations.
     
  7. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    If student loans get more difficult to obtain, as they should, it will bring college tuition back down to more realistic levels. Maybe even eventually to where they should be. The free loans for everyone bullshit is what caused college tuition to explode.
     
  8. tony 340

    tony 340 Well-Known Member

    That and public schools jamming it into kids brains that they all have to go to college
     
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  9. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    ALL loans should be dischargable. I am against bankruptcy and while it is not an unforgivable thing it certainly would effect whether I do business or hire you (waiting for Trump comments :crackup:). Debtor prisons were a problem as were company store nonsense that we need to protect against. Like other laws better ten go free than one be wrongly imprisoned. Also unlike IRS stuff this is not confiscated by law.

    This is not about student loans IMO but debt law in general. :beer:
     
  10. tony 340

    tony 340 Well-Known Member

    No

    Whoever loans the money needs to have something that can change possession back to the lender. Then bankruptcy is somewhat ok

    If not .....everyone will file bankruptcy
     
  11. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    I've always liked this...

     
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  12. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    My had an auto parts store. Two garages declared bankruptcy and stiffed us (one in a VERY sleazy way). Do you think we got any money or parts back? Part of being a lender is assessing risk. Sometimes you are wrong. Why should the government be allowed to make crappy loans and then put people in lifetime debt with no recourse?
     
  13. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    If bankruptcy protection is available to businesses then it should be available, and utilized just as readily, to individuals.
     
  14. tony 340

    tony 340 Well-Known Member

    Kids sign paperwork for these loans. They see the numbers.

    Nobody holds a gun to their head.

    The interest rates are good and so are the taxes in April
     
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  15. jrsamples

    jrsamples Banned

    Because the borrower asked for it? Because the borrower thought it was a swell idea? Because the borrower promised to pay it back?
     
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  16. jrsamples

    jrsamples Banned

    Shouldn't be available to anyone. It is all a get out of obligation without cost scheme.
     
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  17. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    So no bankruptcy and if you cannot pay it back your creditor can go after you for a lifetime? Look into the history of WHY we have bankruptcy. Like most things it is not perfect but the alternative is worse.
     
  18. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Bankruptcy is paid for by those that do pay off their obligations.
     
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  19. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    Alot of personal bankruptcy's are caused by crazy high medical bills.
     
  20. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    Well, you shouldve thought about the financial consequences before you decided to go out and get cancer.
     
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