Pirelli tire selection

Best source for Moto3 sets?

 

Last weekend if you were at COTA otherwise your local Pirelli vendor. But remember they aren't alot of Moto3 bikes here so call the peeps to make sure that they have them right?

 

Thanks. Just planning ahead, as I might have to have them shipped since they're for my mini-moto.

Do recommended pressures still apply? I'm getting a wide range of recommendations.

 

When we ran 17" tires on minis, we used lower pressures. They didn't have Pirelli's back then, we ran dunlop and bridegstones, and ran between 19-23. We ran tire warmers, but back then we didn't check temps when coming off the track, so I can't give you that info, but all of the riders were running lower pressures, versus what we ran once we went to the big tracks with a 125.

 

Can we get some insight on what changed to cause the recommended warmer temperature range from years past?

Also, from what I hear during the wsbk broadcasts, teams try to go as low as possible pressure wise in the rear to extract maximal performance. I think the minimum psi they allow is around the 23psi range. I understand the official Pirelli recommended range is to cover the wide range of riders that would potentially be using these tires.

 

So the big thing here is you're using Moto3 slicks on a bike that won't G load the tires (you're not cornering at a buck 20 are you?) so lower pressures of course can be used. Get with your vendor for pressures.

 

WSBK/WSS aka the fastest bikes with the fastest riders are experimenting with lower front pressures and to some extent rears too. When the rears have so much grip they can push the front around and it hurts lap times. So with a WSBK/WSS perfect setup a bit lower front pressure increases braking performance and helps settle the bike. A bunch of club racers around the US have tried to copy WSBK and the results are inconclusive but generally they aren't liking the feel. So they are sticking very close to recommended psi, and the multiple track records are proof of this.

Oscar does a ton of work at the track and is a engineer so I'm guessing he's modified the warmer temps to help you guys. And it might be related to carcass or compound changes too but I'm not sure. Check with your trackside vendor.

But the big thing to all of this is know that your warmers work CORRECTLY and check your gauge and hot psi and the pressures off the track, and check with your trackside vendor.

And check with your trackside vendor.
And check with your trackside vendor.

 

More like cornering at 20.

 

To your knowledge has there been much experimentation done on the 125/70 front paired with a 190/60 rear domestically?
If I recall an article I read, that tire option was opened up to WSSP bikes either last year or this year.

 

Yes quite a few riders around the US tried it. But the results were inconclusive and it wasn't a path to going faster than the 120/70.

 

Looking for some insight of which track Day tire for the most life. I used to get about 4 days out of Rosso Corsa 2 rear. Now I'm getting 2 days out of a Rosso 4 Corsa. Would I expect more life out of a supercorsa? Not a fast guy. 15s at nelson and can't seem to get under 2 min at pitt...

 

The Rosso 4 Corsa is already half done when it shows up new. The tread depth new is abysmal compared to other brands. The grip is fantastic but it's done really quick. I've been a big Pirelli fan for years, but that may change.

 

Ide rather see you buy race take offs from a fast rider then put street tires on the track. Used set of pirellis if they have 1 day on them, you might be able to squeeze 2 days

 

I'm just gonna go with the supercorsa sc3 and save my last set of corsas for if it's a little wet out

 

I picked up an 06 CBR1000RR to coach on. It looks like the rear wheel is 6.0” and stock tire size is 190/50. My plan had been to run an SC3 rear on it as well as burn up some take offs. I have take offs in both 190/60 and 180/60 and have not purchased any SC3 rears yet. What size(s) should I be ok running on this bike? I found some tech sheets that say both those sizes would work but the latest tech sheet posted says the 180 and 190 are for a 5.5” rear wheel.

 

200/60zR 17 SC3 Diablo Supercorsa on a 6.o

 

So the 180 and 190s are a no-go based on rim width, or just not the ideal/fastest tire for the application?

 

If you're just coaching on it, why are you even asking? If it's round and has some semblance of tread, you can coach with it. As he said, the 190 is designed for 5.5" rims. Doesn't mean your bike is going to explode if you run them. Any decent suspension guy would be able to make the chassis work with any of those rear tires.

 

When did he say that? And I’m asking because I don’t know the answer and depending on what Pirelli tech sheet you look at it gives you different information. Thanks for the info though.

 

To make this simple to understand for y'all will take me some time to put together the explanation of tire design by rim width in street tires vs. race dots vs. slicks
Give me a bit