Overall Finish

What's the importance of an Overall finish? Besides the fact that there is a trophy for it, is there a better payout than just taking a podium in class? Are their contingencies that pay particularly for an overall?

Riding an SV, I don't ever forsee being on the Overall Podium, Hell, I'd be elated with a top 10.

So, if there is a bonus for top 3 Overall, how about a bonus for any LW teams that break top 10? MB was 12th at VIR at the Red flag restart.

 

I agree, it is very tough to break into the top ten with an SV on the faster and longer tracks.

It would be interesting to figure out a system that rewards the individual classes for finishing ahead of other classes - not sure how. However as far as I know, the price money is based on overall position which puts the SV teams in a disadvantage.

On the other hand - we knew that when we started

 

Mongo, you are absolutely right, we are very happy to have Suzuki as a contingency and WERA's payout. I guess I don't kow exactly how WERA pays, based on class finish and/or overall?

We are very lucky to have WERA as a body and enjoy every minute of it - don't take it as critisism rather than jealousy

Thanks again for putting on a great event - VIR was a blast.

 

Hey man, it's just a suggestion. You wanna bust balls, bust away. I know where you're coming from, cuz I push until the wall falls, but...

If it weren't for the power of suggestion, there wouldn't be a LW class, and there wouldn't be Suzuki $ there. It took a year to get the class, and another to get the money.

Who knows how the next suggestion will affect next year, right?

XOXO,

 

speaking of lw bikes. i need to get paid just for bringing my poor sad hawk out to the track. have you got a contengency that will pay me to not put it in the way of others on the track?

 

I'd be very interested in this too. Make sure riders of vintage 2 stroke bikes are eligible.

 

MW didn't have a problem breaking into the top three at VIR. Harwell was on a mission.........plus the ever present force of AOD.

 

Rereading my post, I don't see where I was pushy, rude, or anything other than inquizative(sp).

If you find it annoying that I suggest things, then there's not much I can do about that.

 

Too bad Papa doesn't read the endurance forum, I'd ask him to pass the popcorn.

 

Why have an overall at all????

 

I think, we are drifting into a philosophical debate that will exist as long as we have smaller bikes.
I have to state that WERA and the WERA community recognizes the achievements of 125s, SVs etc. in a much better degree than other organizations that I've raced with - which we all should appreciate. That being the case, some of the industry insiders (Suzuki and product manufacturers) are following.
We all know that it takes a lot of money to transform a SV ladies sport cruiser into a competitive racebike but if we wouldn't like - why are we doing it (I have 3 of them and 2 125s).
The fact that our laptimes will never match (generally speaking) the ones of bigger superbikes is a fact of life and technology. The SV has been a great representative to the LW motorcycle community but it's NOT and never will be a GSXR.
Some of us have no idea how lucky we are, that this great racing community appreciates the fast LW riders on an almost or equal level as MW or HW riders - believe me guys, I have seen otherwise ...
So - instead of debating the overal finish and payout situation, I would love to see more product contingency within the LW classes. Having 30 LW bikes on the grid will help to do so - and representing ourselves (LW guys) as semi-professional teams/riders in appearance and attitude will also aid this process. Back to the ...
don't ask what the country can do for you but ....

Just a thought from a different perspective


Jurgen
www.teaminfotech.com

 

Because that's the way endurance racing works. It's the same for cars and bikes. It's like a race within a race. The overall win is the big win, and you're also battling with other people within your class.

It's awesome to see smaller bikes like a 600 finish 2nd overall (or even win) against 1000's and 750's.

If you didn't have classes within the overall you'd lose a lot of people who are going for class championships and class contingency. Sure, the overall win is the goal of every team but you have to be realistic given your level of equipment and resources.

I like seeing full grids in endurance and if you did away with classes I think a lot of people would drop out, especially those whiny LW guys.

 

Naaa - we wouldn't whine, we would just contract all available rain gods ...

 

I dunno if that would work. THE Rain Director himself was at VIR this past weekend and there was only one brief (albiet funny) thunderstorm warning but no rain.

 

"have you got a contengency that will pay me to not put it in the way of others on the track?"

yeah, i think honey offered to sell it to anyone/anywhere so she don't have to see it in the back of the truck....it's natural habitat.

 

first: you suck
second: you have no room to talk about broken bikes. your basement looks like jim jones has been feeding kool-aid to bikes down there. just dead bodies all over the place.