Notre Dame de Paris is BURNING!!

Discussion in 'General' started by Sabre699, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. Metalhead

    Metalhead Dong pilot

    It can and will be rebuilt. Gotta have faith.
  2. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    A French billionaire has pledged 100 million euros to help repair it.
  3. fastedyamaha

    fastedyamaha Well-Known Member

    It was a $120 million euro renovation!
  4. ducrcr

    ducrcr reasonably fast old guy

    Like some others here, I definitely feel fortunate to have been able to see it last fall! It really made me sad to see this on the news! :(
  5. cha0s#242

    cha0s#242 12 inch pianist

    I saw it in '98 and it was also in renovations. I guess it's a labor of love.
  6. Sabre699

    Sabre699 Wait...hold my beer.

  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Have to say, they didn't get the roof out quick but looking at some of the after pics they kept it contained up there WAY better than I'd ever have expected. Lot of the interior is water damaged but not much more in other pretty significant parts. Also with the fire not going down into the interior much the base stone structure should still be in good shape especially since the way it was built didn't reply on the roof for support in any way (at least that's what I remember from long ago history and architecture classes).
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  8. joec

    joec brace yourself

    Im torn as to whether they should do a traditional tyoe of restoration or just go full tilt the other direction. It was such a stunning building inside and out.. And yes, the butresses are what hold the walls up. I'm also guessing that the photos are deceiving. When the spire fell im sure it didn't help things. And it looked like most of the windows were destroyed. But I saw they were able to save the main organ. Which is just incredible.

    I've never seen firefighters move so fast. Fucking great job on thier part.

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  9. sidepipe79

    sidepipe79 Well-Known Member

    The firefighters worked hard on that. It helps that the cathedral had such a iconic part of the city. I am sure that they had a contingency plan for if there ever was a fire and if they didn't, they did a great job improvising. I even saw a picture of some of the stained glass that apparently survived.
  10. HPPT

    HPPT Admin/Mod

    They came up with a fire plan in recent years after some other fires in other places. Including measuring up fireproof tarps (I don't know if that's the correct word) and stuff deployed to protect the art inside.
    Still, they think that their response time was 15-30 minutes away from losing the entire cathedral. The first inspection when the fire alarm went off turned up nothing. By the time they realized that they should call the fire department, they were perilously close to being too late.
  11. Jed

    Jed mellifluous

    So the systems people put in place worked. The people who monitored the systems failed.
  12. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    This is a common theme among every field of human endeavor! Maintenance is way less sexy than new shit so it gets less funding and attention.

    Our entire civilization is a house of cards. Notre Dame is just a microcosm.
  13. Trunxgp1224

    Trunxgp1224 Well-Known Member

    Our company pledged 1 million Euros to the Notre-Dame Fund and they're matching any donations employees make.
    Sabre699, dobr24 and I'm with Stupid like this.
  14. zertrider

    zertrider Waiting for snow. Or sun.

    They have pledges for 1.3billion so far. Honestly, why? I get that it has history, but that is $1million dollars for 1300 people. To rebuild something that will never have the same awe inspiring history as the original. To break that down, let say that it will take $300mil in materials (it won't) to rebuild, that is $200,000 a year for 5 yrs for 1000 people to rebuild it. That is ridiculous.
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  15. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    History is important to people. I think it could all be spent better but I get why they want to do it.
  16. rd400racer

    rd400racer Well-Known Member

    You say original, but something I learned was the spire that collapsed wasn't built until the 1800's, so they've been continuously improving it since the beginning. In my mind it will still be awe inspiring.
  17. zertrider

    zertrider Waiting for snow. Or sun.

    But will it? The awe inspiring part to me is how the heck they did it without modern technology, like cranes.
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  18. Robin172

    Robin172 Well-Known Member

    Same way the pyramids were built - aliens.
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  19. Sabre699

    Sabre699 Wait...hold my beer.

    Viva la France.
  20. I'm with Stupid

    I'm with Stupid I feel everything you say

    Then why rebuild anything? Most major cities more than a few hundred years old have been completely destroyed by fire or war - some multiple times. Should we just abandon what we‘ve built?

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