MotoGP | Aragon | Spain | Sept 22 - 24 | 2017

Good because out 18 races they were on the podium 7 times. That's roughly 39% of all the races. pretty strange how 39% of races are podiumed by those teams would cause some one to laugh and shit.

 

You don't think he's doing it just because he loves to race? I'm sure some of it is that he wants to show everyone that he's not done yet.

 

I just think hes fueling his ego, honesty. Trying to do something a bit special.

The reasonable thing to do would be get healthy 100%, come back and kick ass.

Or maybe like his fans, he's actually delusional and still thinks he's got a shot at the championship.

The whole risk and reward ratio seems out of whack on this deal.

 

Of course he's trying to do something special. Hell, he's 38, still winning races, podiuming, and until he missed the last race, in the hunt for the championship.

Reasonable isn't what these guys do.

 

I seem to remember a certain sourpussed spaniard who got his shoulder plated and came back to race.

Was that ego?

 

I suspect the only thing more painful than trying to pull off this race would be to sit it out.

 

I've taken a cast off my hand to play beer leauge softball*. Some guys would just rather do, than watch. If he's fit, and mentally ready, then giver. Too risky? It's motorcycle racing.....it's risky.

*i am in no way comparing the level of manliness required to hit slo pitch dingers with a broken hand to riding a motogp bike with a broken leg . Merely making the comment that some would rather be in the game than watching it.

 

125cc WC @ 17 years of age.

250cc WC @ 19 years of age

500cc WC @ 21 years of age

Plus 6 more WC's in the Premier class.

21 years in GP Racing.

360 GP starts.

226 podiums.

Longest winning career in GP history.

Most points scored in GP history - And counting... At age 38.

It's not only his number of accomplishments, but his age and length of his career that add to the discussion.

 

Awww, you're warming to him.

 

Brett Favre had the record for touchdowns, and passes attempted, and interceptions... His touchdown record has been beaten, with the attempts and interceptions not even close. Sometimes you have to separate the skill from the longevity.

I'm not saying Rossi isn't a legend, but trying to make the argument against marquez because he is riding in a different time than Rossi, and might decide not to race for 20+years is leaving a little bit out of the equation.

 

This. How many here have gridded up 1/2 or 3/4 busted up just to have a shot at a cheap assed plastic trophy and bragging rights knowing full well that you are risking further injury and will likely not do well? I am sure not going to throw stones...

 

Well, he seems to be riding around pretty well today.

 

That's cute.

• Youngest rider in history of motorcycling to win a race started from the last position in a world GP : 17 years, 256 days ( Estoril , 31 October 2010 )
• Only Rider in history of motorcycling to advance 32 positions from the start grid to the end of the race ( Valencia ,11 November 2012 )
• Only Rider in history to win a Moto2 GranPrix started from the last position ( 33th ) ( Valencia ,11 November 2012 )
• Most podium finishes in a single season in Moto2 Class: 14
• Most wins in Moto2 Class: 16
• Most wins in a single season in Moto2 Class: 9
• Fastest crash in MotoGP: 209 mph (336 km/h) (2nd practice Mugello 2013)[100]
• Youngest pole position in Premier Class: 20 years, 62 days (COTA USA 2013)[1]
• Youngest winner in Premier Class: 20 years, 63 days (COTA USA 2013)[1]
• Youngest rider to take successive podium positions in the Premier Class: 20 years, 63 days (Qatar, COTA USA 2013)[1]
• Youngest rider to take a fastest lap in the Premier Class: 20 years, 49 days (Qatar 2013)[1]
• 4 successive podium positions in first 4 Premier Class Grands Prix (shared with Max Biaggi)[1]
• Most wins as a teenager in all classes: 26
• Youngest Spanish rider to take a pole position: 16 years, 88 days (France 2009)
• Most pole positions in a season of 125cc World Championship: 12
• Youngest rider to win 5 successive Grands Prix: (Mugello, Silverstone, Assen, Barcelona, Sachsenring 2010)
• Youngest rider to lead the Premier Class championship: 20 years, 63 days (COTA USA 2013)[1]
• Youngest rider to win at least 1 race in 3 classes of GP Racing
• Márquez won in Germany for the fourth successive year in 2013 across three different classes; in 2010 he was competing in the 125 class, in 2011 and 2012 the Moto2 class and in 2013 in MotoGP. He is the first rider of the modern era to win at the same circuit for four successive years across three different classes. Also adding a 5th, 6th ,7th and 8th consecutive German GP win in the MotoGP class in 2014, 2015 , 2016 and 2017.
• First/only rookie to win at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.
• Youngest rider to win 4 races back to back in Premier Class: 20 years, 189 days (Germany-USA-Indianapolis-Czech Republic 2013)[1]
• First rookie to win 4 races back to back in Premier Class: (Germany-USA-Indianapolis-Czech Republic 2013)[1]
• Youngest rider to set fastest times in every session from a Premier Class GP Weekend: (Indianapolis 2013)
• Most wins as a rookie in Premier Class: 6[1]
• Most pole positions as a rookie in Premier Class: 9[1]
• Most podium finishes in rookie season of Premier Class: 16[1]
• Most podium finishes in single season of Premier Class: 16 (Shared with Valentino Rossi, Casey Stoner & Jorge Lorenzo)
• Most points scored as a rookie in Premier Class: 334[1]
• Youngest rider to take back to back pole positions in Premier Class (Silverstone-Misano 2013)
• Youngest rider to take four pole positions in a row in Premier Class (Silverstone-Misano-Aragon-Malaysia 2013)
• First rookie to take 4 consecutive pole positions in Premier Class
• Youngest rider to win the title in Premier Class: 20 years, 266 days[1]
• First rider to win Intermediate Class and Premier Class titles back to back
• 2nd rookie to win Premier Class title (after Kenny Roberts in 1978)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 2 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 3 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 4 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 5 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 6 races of a season from Pole Position (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 7 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 8 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya-Netherlands 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 9 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya-Netherlands-Germany 2014)
• First rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win first 10 races of a season (Qatar-USA-Argentina-Spain-France-Italy-Catalunya-Netherlands-Germany-Indianapolis 2014)
• Most Pole Positions from Start Of Season in 4 Stroke MotoGP (2002–) era: 6
• Youngest Rider to win 5 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 90 days
• Youngest Rider to win 6 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 104 days
• Youngest Rider to win 7 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 118 days
• Youngest Rider to win 8 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 131 days
• Youngest Rider to win 9 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 146 days
• Youngest Rider to win 10 races in a row in Premier Class: 21 years, 174 days
• Youngest Rider to win 11 races in a single season in Premier Class: 21 years, 205 days
• Only rider in 4 stroke MotoGP (2002–) era to win 6 successive Premier Class races from Pole
• Most points scored in First 10 races of Premier Class season: 250
• Most Consecutive race wins in Premier Class in 4 Stroke MotoGP (2002–) era: 10
• Most Consecutive race wins in a single Premier Class season (1949–) era: 10 (Shared with Mick Doohan and Giacomo Agostini)
• Youngest rider to win back to back championships in Premier Class: 21 years, 237 days
• Only Honda rider to clinch Premier Class championship at Honda's Motegi circuit
• Only Spanish rider to win 2 titles back to back in Premier Class
• Youngest rider to take 12 Pole positions in a single season in Premier Class: 21 years, 243 days
• Only rider to take 13 Pole positions in a single season in Premier Class
• Youngest rider to win 12 races in a single season: 21 years, 251 days
• Most Races won in a single season in Premier Class: 13
• One of only pair of brothers to win Grand Prix motorcycle racing world championships, with Álex Márquez[101]
• Most Fastest laps in a MotoGP season: 12 (shared with Valentino Rossi)
• All time wins leader (consecutive from 2013 to 2017 ) at the Circuit of the Americas: 5[71]
• Most consecutive pole positions at the Circuit of the Americas : 5
• First/Only Rider in history to win 8 consecutive times in the same circuit
• Most consecutive wins at Sachsenring Circuit: 8
• Most consecutive pole positions at Sachsenring Circuit: 8
• Most consecutive wins at Indianapolis Circuit: 5
• First/Only rider in history to win 5 times in Misano Circuit
• Youngest rider in the history of world motorcycling to get 50 wins: 22 years, 243 days
• Most Pole Positions in history of motorcycling ever: 71
• Youngest rider to get 5 World Championship Titles (23 years and 242 days)
• Youngest rider to get 3 World Championship Titles in MotoGp Premier Class (23 years and 242 days)
• Only motorcycle rider to lap Silverstone circuit under two minutes-'1:59.941'-Q2 2017

 

TL;46.

 

All of those stats that start with "youngest or first" are weak arguments.

Maybe MM will end up being in the GOAT discussion at the end of his career. For now, it's just potential.

 

Funny how the only stats that "count" in the silly little GOAT argument are those that are put up by Rossi...

 

WTF is up with Vinales?? Last place in FP2

 

How many TT wins does Rossi have?

 

Same number as me, better include me in these GOAT comparisons from now on.

 

no rear grip.

the closer i watch this championship, the more skeptical i get about it.