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Imagine that...

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by H8R, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    I have no idea what point you think you were making,
    or what you're referring to.

    The point I was making is that referring to the work of a scientist as scientific research doesn't make it so. It has to actually follow established research parameters in order to have validity.
     
  2. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    I'll hold him, you hit him.:D
     
  3. theJrod

    theJrod Well-Known Member

    Couldn't have said it better, so it's worth quoting/repeating.

    What happens after an ice age? The Earth warms back up. :cool:
     
  4. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    You really think that private companies don't spend years in research that results in dead ends? How about evil drug companies for starters.

    Are you really crediting the US Government with the development of quantum
    theory?
     
  5. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    I think the sequence of events is summed up nicely in the documentary film from 1982...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVT0yr07a7g
     
  6. H8R

    H8R Bansgivings in process

    So which corporation did it then? Oh...wait it was the Universities that depend on what?
     
  7. RCjohn

    RCjohn Killin machine.

    And how many awesome products were found/discovered/invented by mistake while working on other stuff?

    Kevlar, WD-40 and Viagra are some big ones. :D
     
  8. ThrottleAbuse

    ThrottleAbuse Will Race for CASH!

    Capitalism is the reason we are a superpower. H8R I think you are still a bit confused on where the government gets its money. Barry doesn't have a big ole piggybank.
     
  9. H8R

    H8R Bansgivings in process

    :D...I thought Herman Cain was in control of it.
     
  10. earacing

    earacing Race Dad

    I dunno... looks like he's getting pummeled enough. :D
     
  11. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Or little in some cases.
     
  12. Hawk518

    Hawk518 Resident Alien

    I don't see the correlation that you are trying to tie here? Scientist may well attack each other work but those attack are a direct function of funds available. Even at its worst, minimum funds, Scientist will criticize other's work since they need to prove that they know a better way to do the research but leave no doubt that on very few instant will a scientist speak on the futility of a funded research.

    If you as an individual believe that you, we, are that significant, go ahead and turn the heat off. As far as the globe is concern, my point is that we do not have as great an impact as some claim. I don't believe to have ever claimed that global warming does or does not exist. I subscribe to the theory that the globe itself is a magnificent machine and man is but just one of many species that has been on it for wonderful ride.

    Do I believe that we can do more to minimize our impact sure. However, the impact that I refer to is the impact that our action have on one another, not on the globe.

    I welcome any one to challenge my carbon footprint. :D

    And, it was a pleasure to meet you and your gang. Now I definitely know I can take your hippie ass. :Poke:
     
  13. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member

    I'll swear! We've been over this so many times it's not even fun anymore because this discussion hasn't evolved one inch in the past 4 or 5 years. We've pretty well decided that both arguments, pro and con, have legs so what we need to start looking at is, what are the alternatives at the present?

    Right now, oil and gas, or simply fossil fuels, is pretty well it. Do you agree? I would also like to hear what is wrong with the oil companies earning a profit? Should they be denied that?


    H8R, what do you think we need to do right now?
     
  14. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Donor-funded endowments?
     
  15. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Corporate research dollars? Corporate tax dollars? Which one?:D
     
  16. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

    Post-It-Notes.
     
  17. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

    Some of y'all seem to have forgotten, or have chosen to forget that Muller is funded by the Koch bros.
     
  18. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    Which is bad why exactly?

    I guess you don't have a problem vilifying anything funded by Soros then? Mikey Moore? The federal government?
    Or is it just anything that has even a dime given to them by a couple obscure brothers?
     
  19. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

    Where did I vilify???

    My point is that so many posters claim that the scientist(s) slant their reports at the whim of their funders. The Koch bros are Far FAR from advocates of "global warming" or "climate change".

    OBTW, you might want to look at my actual posts rather than making UN-founded guesses. I have vilified the goobermint and Fat-ass Moore on more than one occasion. Soros has never been that much on my radar. I don't use the same Conspiracy Theorist model you appear to use.
     
  20. chuckbear

    chuckbear Totally radical, bro.

    Wait, wait, wait.... You're saying scientists for, for example, drug corporations can reach conclusions that will debunk their initial hypotheses and thusly end funding for their current project and do so without bias, but privately funded climate scientists can't??

    :confused:
     

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