Covid19 PSA

Discussion in 'General' started by R Acree, Mar 10, 2020.

  1. crashman

    crashman Getting slower every day

    Those only work when you have lots of money, don't want to give any up to help the cause du jour but still want to feel like you are "doing something". They do not work for us po' folk...
     
  2. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner


    I find that changing your social media avatar to something trendy seems to help alot.
     
  3. Ducti89

    Ducti89 Ticketing Melka’s dirtbike.....

    Is “thoughts and prayers” still as effective as it used to be?
     
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  4. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    As much as hopes and dreams I'd say....
     
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  5. Jed

    Jed mellifluous

    #WEAR_A_MASK_OR_DON'T!
     
  6. cav115

    cav115 Well-Known Member


    Shame you had to explain....
     
  7. rd49

    rd49 Well-Known Member

    Actually it’s

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  8. Ducti89

    Ducti89 Ticketing Melka’s dirtbike.....

    A thousand apologies.
     
  9. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    He also had cancer a while back, I believe it was stage 4 colon and liver. Wasn't in fantastic health to begin with from what I'd heard, and they vented him which has about 88% death as the outcome, and I can't imagine radiation and chemo from his past helped the situation. Unfortunate as all death are, but I don't think it should be politicized or put under the microscope.
     
  10. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab

    You could say the same about some deceased racers.
     
  11. 418

    418 Expert #59


    What's the irony?

    You're gonna sit there and act as if masks completely mitigate COVID19 now? Let me help you with that, they don't. He could have done all the "right" things and still gotten infected.

    The Dutch government just said they will not require masks, as there is no medical trials that prove their effectiveness.
     
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  12. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    Nor will there be. It would be unethical to have a bunch of people with who have tested positive for Covid hanging out in an enclosed space with a bunch of people who tested negative for Covid. Even less so if a portions of these trial "bunches" have no one wearing masks or only the positive wearing masks or only the negative wearing masks. It what way does that prove they don't work? By work I mean reduce the chances of catching the disease, not prevent it.
     
  13. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    Quite interesting in that the inverse of this same argument is what "they" used to discount the Chloroquine drugs....hmmmmm....wonder why?
     
  14. Cannoli

    Cannoli Typical Uccio

    While I haven't read every post in this thread, the ones I have read do not implied what you've stated above. What I've read (here and elsewhere) indicates the use of masks helps mitigate the spread of CV-19. Nowhere has it been said that it completely stops the spread (not even N95's). Just like in cybersecurity, no one single thing will stop a compromise (infection) from occurring, but a layered approach makes it more difficult and buys down risk. This methodology is known as known as defense in depth.
     
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  15. Inquizid

    Inquizid Well-Known Member

    In Criminal Justice there is a similar concept... Target Hardening.
     
  16. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    Masks help mitigate the spread, which is undeniable. And, staying out of huge crowds also mitigates the spread. Disregarding both these compounds one’s chances of contracting. If you actually understood how the virus works, you’d understand why a mask is effective, and wouldn’t have posted such frivolous nonsense.

    I live with someone in the animal medical field who’s on top of the going’s on with this virus, because of her Alma mater’s research efforts and its direct link to animals. I’ve read the journal articles stating exactly how it starts/lives and have had any questions clarified. I’m no expert, by any means, but, I do have a clear understanding of it and what’s effective for mitigation. This, which is known, isn’t based on some political agenda from one of the 194 countries of the world.
     
  17. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

  18. pickled egg

    pickled egg Art is subjective

    Just. Wow. :rolleyes:
     
  19. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    Yes, I have already seen and read that article. If you actually read the article and not just the headline it does recommend mask wearing.

    I wholeheartedly would support public service message campaigns to get people to wear the masks properly instead of having their nose hanging out or with huge gaps at their cheeks or nose because of poor fitment.

    Cite on your studies done in the past with mask wearing and Covid viruses. If the studies show the masks won't stop all the virus from getting through, yes we know that. I would be interested if you found one that showed they didn't help at all.
     
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  20. Jed

    Jed mellifluous

    That's commentary, not a scientific paper. And seems focused on Cloth masks:

    We do, however, have data from laboratory studies that indicate cloth masks or face coverings offer very low filter collection efficiency for the smaller inhalable particles we believe are largely responsible for transmission, particularly from pre- or asymptomatic individuals who are not coughing or sneezing. At the time we wrote this article, we were unable to locate any well-performed studies of cloth mask leakage when worn on the face—either inward or outward leakage. As far as we know, these data are still lacking.

    At the very top of the article is this editors note:

    The authors and CIDRAP have received requests in recent weeks to remove this article from the CIDRAP website. Reasons have included: (1) we don’t truly know that cloth masks (face coverings) are not effective, since the data are so limited, (2) wearing a cloth mask or face covering is better than doing nothing, (3) the article is being used by individuals and groups to support non-mask wearing where mandated and (4) there are now many modeling studies suggesting that cloth masks or face coverings could be effective at flattening the curve and preventing many cases of infection.
     

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