Attack on 2nd Amendment

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by 50Joe, Mar 29, 2019.

  1. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds


    I'm not fond of this "you can still kill a lot of people with low cap magazines" argument, because the logical next step is to ban semi-autos, or even everything that's not a single shot.
     
  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    People around here have made fun of bump stocks forever and not sure anyone gives a shit about their banning. It is a stupid ban because just like Clinton banning decorative items it accomplishes nothing at all. Also doesn't matter who bans them, it's smoke and mirrors, nothing more.
     
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  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I totally agree they can do as they wish. However the statement you referred to wasn't about his personal beliefs but about the job he is doing for his stockholders. Even just 1.7% of total sales is a hit.
     
  4. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Offset by the trend of primarily online sellers building brick and mortar... The survivors will learn to balance both.
     
  5. gixxerreese

    gixxerreese Well-Known Member

  6. Woofentino Pugr

    Woofentino Pugr Phoenix 4/03 to 5/30/12

    A lot of people are pissed about this ban. Not that they like bump stocks, it the precedent that they could "define" all semi-autos as a "machine gun" because it has the "potential" to become one. NRA made a "suggestion" that Trump have the ATF relook into them, ATF previously said TWICE they were legal and do not meet the definition of a machine gun, but now under an EO they 'had' to redefine the term "machine gun". Don Jr understands firearms, his daddy, not so much and relies on others about them.


    Have to be on the registry before May 17, 1986 to be precise.
     
  7. GixxerBlade

    GixxerBlade Oh geez

  8. Trunxgp1224

    Trunxgp1224 Well-Known Member

    I think the bumpstocks are stupid, but I don't support the ban of them. They are highly inaccurate, the guy in Vegas fired into a crowd of 22,000 people and less than 500 were hit with gun fire?
     
  9. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Interesting that a device that cannot itself fire a single round is declared a machine gun. I wonder if other elements are also illegal (no idea if there are others)
     
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  10. crashman

    crashman Getting slower every day

    I think it is classified the same as the auto sear in that the part does not fire the round but it enables more rounds to be fired faster. But I don't care enough to research it. My biggest concern is that once the grabbers manage to get something banned that gives them a toe hold to start trying to ban more stuff.
     
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  11. charles

    charles The Transporter

    I believe you are correct in that possession of the 'full auto' (or selective fire) parts necessary to convert a semi-auto to full auto is illegal. The point of my post was similar to yours regarding 'the grabbers' using the bump-stock ban as a toe hold to ban AR15's, semi-auto pistols, silencers and legal purchase of full auto weapons. Further, me thinks that most citizens are under the impression that full auto weapons (and silencers or suppressors) are illegal, and this confusion might be preserving that right at least for the time being.
     
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  12. 50Joe

    50Joe Registered User

  13. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab

    Should there be?
     
  14. charles

    charles The Transporter

    Yes.
     
  15. R Acree

    R Acree WTF

  16. charles

    charles The Transporter

    I never have outrage. Regular ol' fashioned rage is all, thank you. Trump appears to have an intitiative going to take guns and/or restrict gun ownership, so that bothers me. How do you see it?
     
  17. R Acree

    R Acree WTF

    Senate Republicans = Trump?
     
  18. charles

    charles The Transporter

    Well, most likely following the script set forth by the White House.
     
  19. R Acree

    R Acree WTF

    I'm not willing to make that leap.
     
  20. charles

    charles The Transporter

    Are you referencing the idea of Trump's agenda having strong pull on the Repub's in Congress?
     

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