To get you into that Christmas giving spirit...

The Hebrew word yom doesn't mean a 24 hour day, particularly when Genesis was written. The same word is translated to year, time, age in the same books of the Old Testament. Hell, the sun and moon weren't created until the fourth period of time. So how would it mean anything to do with the sun/moon cycle?
Only simpletons believe the literal "24 hour day" that some tard assigned the word in English centuries ago.
The word means a period of time. No different than using the word "era" in English.

 

Hell our whole family was kicked out of the church here in the early 70's because my grandma wouldn't give more of a percentage of her pension/SS checks so they kicked her and all her kids families out. From what I remember being told about it, ALOT of families walked out afterwards.

 

Can you explain this statement?

 

That is some wild crap right there!

We belong to a church, called 'Church in ________' Insert your city there. We started in Houston, now in Milwaukee.
I don't go much, I'm taking my High school son today, wife is working. She is into it and goes nearly every week, etc.
It's christian, they do communion, and babtize. It's too long IMHO. 2 hrs, the cook for almost an hour and serve a pot luck lunch on Sundays. There is young peoples nights, bible studies, etc.
We have no pastor, and no paid pastor. They are worldwide too!
Good people doing good things.
LIke I said, I only go occasionally. I was brought up Jewish and was Bar Mitzvahed!
I have since been babtized, when my older son was getting his aabout 5 yrs ago.

That's all

 

It’s “baptized”.

 

You're a funny guy.

 

Seems like I said that about you a year ago or so....

 

My parents were told they/we didn't need to come back because they weren't/couldn't give more.

 

Isn't that like a private club membership dues? SMH

 

If we are going by what I need then the churches can stop taking in money. I've had what I need for some time now.

 

the amazing thing is, this is America, not say...Germany, where they tax you for the church. If you don't like it, don't support it. If you can't see the amazing amount of good it does, go your own way. That being said, it doesn't change the fact that the church continues to have and has always had a positive impact on the community. It is made up of flawed people, just like the community. It is made up of those who are there just to "get something" and those who are there with a servants heart, just like the community. There are people who want to do good and people who do bad, just like the community. it is "just like the community" PLUS those who are true believers and followers of Christ, just like the community, because the Church is a reflection of the community with the added reflection of Christ in the hearts of some (many/most?). This last group of people listed make the true positive impacts in the world, because CHRIST has made a positive impact on them. Hearts don't change without Christ. that is the difference. Merry Christmas to you and your family sir!

 

Oh.. OK... So churches are going to start paying taxes, then? They occupy a shitload of prime properties around here. They don't pay their share, therefore my property taxes are higher.

 

The churches around where I grew up like that are in prime location cause they’ve been around 100 plus years. That’s like taxing the shit out of a family who’ve handed a family home down generations.

 

You mean, like they do?

 

Power to tax = power to destroy. Freedom of religion is in conflict.

 

I am good with the churches being tax free until and unless they start telling the government what to do or telling people who to vote for publicly. Inside the church is fine, but not outside of that because then it becomes a PAC not a church.

 

Everyone should be exempt from taxes.

Or no one should.

 

Hey, you were the one that said if I didn't like it I shouldn't support it.

By paying higher taxes to make up for ostentatious temples for 31 different flavors of sky daddy on every block, I AM, de facto, supporting their dead-beatitudes.

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