Important!!! Net Neutrality day in the U.S.

Seems kind of fucked up to me that Emergency Services can be held hostage during an emergency - when Verizon specifically states that it isn't their policy to do so.
but they mentioned net neutrality so - I figured it deserved a place here.

 

Oh, I agree that holding them hostage during an emergency is really crappy on their part. The media should be all over that. The media loves to make big corps like Verizon into the villains.

 

Except when the fire department bought it's plan based on Verizon's recommendation in the first place, and them having a policy of not throttling during an emergency.
Then they bought the next plan that Verizon recommended during an emergency in which they were being throttled and refused to stop.
Then had to buy another plan that Verizon recommended when their com system stopped working because they got throttled AGAIN.

This was Verizon being fucking misleading.

 

I am not emotional about it.
They stated their policy and didn't follow it.
"That's bullshit anyway" ? It's their policy.
If it wasn't their policy then yeah - totally on the FD for their IT guy not knowing what was up.

 

Nope. Verizon shouldn't have that policy in place if they don't want it used. It's that simple.
If I don't want to scrub someone's toilet, I am not going to say yes and then bitch at them when they come ask me to do it.

 

Sometimes being penny wise will end up making you pound foolish.

 

I really am not emotional over this - annoyed at Verizon because they are a giant pile of shit. But emotional? I get emotional over kittens and babies. And the girl that was sitting on the side of the road last night sobbing after putting her car in the drink. Sometimes I get emotional about the Dungeon Echo Chamber - but that's usually right round the time before the monthly curse, so I chalk that up to having the innie instead of the outtie.

You would laugh at the budget we work with. Every position is volunteer except the chief's. So our "IT Department" is someone who effs around when he isn't at his day job. You may be surprised to learn that most firefighters in this country are volunteer - and the well of volunteers is running dry.

 

I only have one problem with all of this. If you are going to advertise as unlimited then you should be forced to shove data through the pipes at full data speeds advertised. If you are going to throttle the customer at some point then you should have the call the plans what they are "limited" in either data volume or data throughput.

 

Unlimited refers to when you can connect, not how much data you can push. This goes back to the dial up era.

 

There is not now nor has there ever been unlimited bandwidth or speed. You are incredibly confused about internet delivery. This lack of knowledge is exactly why there is so much false comparisons about this subject.

 

I'm not in the least confused. If "Unlimited" refers to when you can able to connect to the network and not how much data you are allowed to pass at specific speeds then you should not have to advertise that along with your very defined dollar per megabyte plans. It is quite clear to me that they are using the term Unlimited in their advertising in the very same sense as the rest of the data plan marketing. They make no separate distinction about network availability when using it.

 

That exemplifies the ignorance of your argument. You don’t have the slightest iota of what you’re talking about.

 

You mean the guy that designs, runs and manages IP networks has no idea about data and how it is managed in network. Sure we'll go with that. You mean the guy sitting 3 feet from the woman that was largely responsible for the marketing and advertising of Verizon's offerings for almost a decade...sure we'll go with that....

 

I have never idea if you’re bullshitting now or not - though I’m certain that you are at least about some. But if you’re too stupid to understand the difference between data size and speed then yes. I mean you. Btw, I’m damn sure I DO this stuff for a living.

 

Perhaps you didn't read this as I did...

When you say access to me we aren't talking about data rate or data size. We are talking about your ability to connect to the network at all. That's not what they are selling when they say "Unlimited". But hey if you are happy with them marketing things as they do so be it. I have a problem with the following...



Premium "Unlimited" 4G LTE data (22GB)

Is that limited or unlimited? Doesn't mention shit about access...just mentions a 22GB limit on data volume at 4G LTE speeds. Then goes on to mention that you'll be throttled down to well below 4G LTE speeds the moment you hit your Unlimited limit. Clear as a bell to me. It is clearly not in any way "Unlimited".

Throttling throughput for users on a very oversubscribed network has to happen for the health of the network as was discussed previously but it's disingenuous to use the word "Unlimited" when you clearly have to impose limits to keep the end user experience for the bulk of subscribers palatable.