MotoAmerica - Round One - Road Atlanta 04/21-23

Boman Forklift · Aug 15, 2023

tophyr said: ↑

@joshherrin, I think what @redtailracing meant was that this thread is months old, everyone had basically forgotten about it, and yet a comment from "some pussy" in this dusty-old-forgotten thread got under your skin enough that you felt the need to revive the discussion, remind everyone of the petty drama within it, and then add to that fire by belittling people. Someone who was thick-skinned wouldn't have felt the need to "call out all of [the] cowards", because they wouldn't have cared as much what those cowards thought. Words on the internet would be water off a duck's back rather than glue in a rat trap.

You're an interesting character, man. I don't think I'd call myself a fan, but I like you. I've met you enough times both in person and on the track - as you lapped the shit out of me in about half the 2022 SS races - that I know you are a kind, positive, and uplifting person in your personal interactions. And this business with the thin-vs-thick skin and feeling the need to call people out is particularly interesting.. it means that, for better or worse, you really do really care what people say and think about you. You (consciously or not) want these people to like you, whether or not you even like them to begin with. But the way you go about dealing with the conflict between that need for approval and the inevitable - inevitable, because there are people out there who don't even like Mother Teresa - lack of it from some people, is just straight up toxic.

It becomes a vicious cycle, dude. Someone says Josh Herrin is a dickhead, Josh Herrin finds out and claps back.. and Josh Herrin becomes the celebrity who "punches down" and thus proves himself to be a dickhead. You are a celebrity and your detractor is not. You are well-liked, you are well-respected, you are looked up to.. by virtue of the fact that you have fans at all, you are held to a higher social standard than the nobodies of the world. Your fans don't care about what some nobody says and does; they care about what you say and do. But they know, in the backs of their heads, that they are also some nobody.. so if you're willing to beat up on that other nobody, you might be willing to beat up on them too.
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Very well said, but I’m still a fan of Josh.

Rdrace42 said: ↑

Hey, the best of us say stupid things, and can react to criticism in a less than graceful way. People being honest about the way they perceive his attitudes and behavior, are giving him an opportunity to be circumspect and possibly course correct. I'm all for having no fucks given to a point. There are plenty of people in this world who have proven they don't deserve my respect, so their corresponding opinion of me means nothing. I'm also not in an arena where I'm essentially in public relations. Being an amateur who pays his own bills? You can do what you want (within the boundaries of not hurting other people), and no problem. Professional road racing is show business, and public opinion becomes part of your job. It's not just his sponsors and team owners that are impacted by the way he's perceived. I was on the hill at RA when he came by flipping everyone off. There were a lot of kids on that hill that were cheering for him, and those cheers suddenly fell mute. That's the kind of stuff where he needs to do some introspection about his "me against the world" attitude. And BTW, I'm a fan of his in terms of his grit and effort in racing. I don't know him personally, so I can't speak to whether he's a nice guy, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of that doubt. I'm not trying to vilify him, or be a sheep. Think of it like a member of your family, or a friend, who maybe isn't quite aware of the effect his behavior is having on others. You'd tell a friend, " hey dude, you're being a douche", with no malice. Just giving them a heads-up, that their head might be up their ass.
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Regarding the flipping off, yeah maybe it wasn’t cool for kids, but if they have not seen that before, they are pretty young or very sheltered? Sounds like a teachable moment, remember parents need those, especially when the parent wasn’t the one causing that teachable moment….win-win!!

I’m guessing it was easier to explain the flip off, versus me explaining why Justin Timerberlake ripped off Janet’s shirt on national TV. We had 10 kids sitting in front of our TV, mine were 8 and 9 and it wasn’t too big of a deal.

Boman Forklift · Aug 15, 2023

ToofPic said: ↑

eeewwyuck.....Really? Bobby "leave it in the trash can" Fong beating Beach?? You have a better chance of me holding the tail of a unicorn,whilst you make love to it,than Fong beating Beach! and theres few sheep here.Most have been very stern on who they do/don't like.
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Really? I like both these racers, but I’d put my hard earned cash on Fong.

sanee · Aug 15, 2023

Quicktoy said: ↑

Tell us. What do Rossi’s taste like?
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prob like a spicy meatball......just a guess cause he da eye talian

aaronson · Aug 15, 2023

Quicktoy said: ↑

Vax shaming huh? Dude is a real winner I see.
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Especially when you go on the dude’s instagram account and see why they’re pushing the vaccine.

Quicktoy · Aug 15, 2023

aaronson said: ↑

Especially when you go on the dude’s instagram account and see why they’re pushing the vaccine.
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I’ll have to go look.

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