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Mongo/Evelyn---Join AMA to race WERA???

Discussion in 'General' started by Robby-Bobby, Apr 25, 2015.

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  1. dickie doo

    dickie doo Well-Known Member

    I doesn't help.

    Aside you and the boss both believing that it's a benefit for riders, why the change?

    It's one more thing people have to pay, maintain, and join just to race when the grids area already light.

    I'm stupid, so I'm hoping someone can explain how charging more money and adding more process for people to support an org aside from the one they are currently doing business with helps fill the grids.
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2015
    dickie doo, Apr 27, 2015
    #41
  2. 418

    418 Expert #59

    If $50 makes or breaks your race budget I've got some bad news for you...
     
    418, Apr 27, 2015
    #42
  3. dickie doo

    dickie doo Well-Known Member

    No one is saying that, and I doubt $50 is breaking anyones race budget. The point is that it forces racers who do business with WERA to belong to something they wound't otherwise.

    It's also one more thing people have to maintain, and pay for when they join. The way the grids are going now, I don't understand how introducing another cost, and requirement will help.

    Hence, why I asked Sean.
     
    dickie doo, Apr 27, 2015
    #43
  4. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    This isn't about the WERA Sportsman series. This is about the Nationals. Our pro/am series designed to help riders work towards being professional racers.

    When they reach that level they will race with either MotoAmerica or the FIM. One of which is sanctioned by the AMA as we will be and the other of which sanctions the AMA. It helps create a more obvious line of ascension to the pro ranks and also helps us within the industry - which is a huge supporter of the American Motorcyclist Association.
     
    Mongo, Apr 27, 2015
    #44
  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    People said the same things about transponders. Sometimes our job includes forcing racers to do things they wouldn't do otherwise because we see it as beneficial to them and the sport. One thing about WERA is you can trust that no matter what else, we always have and always will have the racers as our main focus be it safety or running events better or in this case the sport as a whole.
     
    Mongo, Apr 27, 2015
    #45
  6. simonburic

    simonburic Runs Wide

    Can we pay for the National License at the track?
     
    simonburic, Apr 27, 2015
    #46
  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    As I have said - there is no such thing. You will be able to buy an AMA membership at the track yes. We will also have links up on here and the main site soon that will take you to a WERA members signup which does benefit WERA directly.
     
    Mongo, Apr 27, 2015
    #47
  8. dickie doo

    dickie doo Well-Known Member

    I figured that was more along the lines, and while I see WERA wanting to align itself with the AMA/FIM crowd, why not let those racers who progress to that level decide for themselves?

    Reality is that the vast majority of your nationals are run by guys who will never see a pro grid. For those that do, they can pay should they choose to.

    I'm no trying to be a pain here, and if you told us all it's $50 more for a National license we'd pay it... although we'd whine for a minute.

    The money just seems to be thrown away on something most of us could care less about, and not directly bettering WERA other than your reputation/alignment. I'd rather put $100 towards the RRW Airfence fund, or give $50 towards a young racer incentive program.

    Just a thought as you guys seemed to make this decision in haste (post season start), and for no better of a reason than it aligns you and the very small percentage of your racers better. Just a thought.
     
    dickie doo, Apr 27, 2015
    #48
  9. caferace

    caferace No.

    Kind of say like, for example, registering a domain in haste?

    Yeah. That.

    -jim
     
    caferace, Apr 27, 2015
    #49
  10. John29

    John29 Road racing since 1973

    Ha!
     
    John29, Apr 27, 2015
    #50
  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I appreciate the input. We feel this is the best way for us to do things for our racers and for the sport.

    As for haste - we've been thinking about and discussing this for at least 15 years. I wasn't joking about my question to the AMA in all of our meetings. This, like the transponders and anything else major we do, was not decided in haste by a long shot.
     
    Mongo, Apr 27, 2015
    #51
  12. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    Just a thought for NOLA and Cycle Jam (those of us that pre register) can you build a field into pre reg or our profile pages have a place to enter our AMA license numbers so you guys don't have to ask for it the day of the race?
     
    Hyperdyne, Apr 27, 2015
    #52
  13. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Working on it.
     
    Mongo, Apr 27, 2015
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  14. stk0308

    stk0308 Well-Known Member

    But your really good at it.
     
    stk0308, Apr 27, 2015
    #54
  15. Olympus Racing

    Olympus Racing Well-Known Member

    still is! haha no more AMA here though
     
    Olympus Racing, Apr 27, 2015
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  16. Olympus Racing

    Olympus Racing Well-Known Member

    ASRA which is part of AMA parts with CCS. They are failing miserably up north but do pretty well in southeast.
     
    Olympus Racing, Apr 27, 2015
    #56
  17. Crybaby™

    Crybaby™ Well-Known Member

    How are you handling mid-Ohio for the NC region. It's a combo Sportsman/national event correct? Will we have to get an AMA license for it or if we don't we'll only be eligible for regional points. Hopefully the latter
     
    Crybaby™, Apr 27, 2015
    #57
  18. Gorilla George

    Gorilla George WIN

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    Gorilla George, Apr 28, 2015
    #58
  19. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    Racing up north has been failing for years. That's not for lack of trying on any org's part.

    Just way too many fair-weather racers who won't back the org's by showing up when it rains or it's cold. Definitely not like it was in the 90's. You can't blame the business for not putting resources in other areas.
     
    Hyperdyne, Apr 28, 2015
    #59
  20. t500racer

    t500racer Never Fails To Fail

    Although it would have been nice to have it come as an announcement from WERA as opposed to a vague post from Robby Bobby (no offense Robby).
     
    t500racer, Apr 28, 2015
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