Legit electric car question

Someone mentioned American car makers are cutting EV production and I pointed out their products are inferior. You may still buy whatever you like, but most East Germans would still be laughed at for buying a Yugo regardless of their patriotism.

 

It’s an aside to the whole EV thing but Yugos weren’t built in Germany.
And there’s no more East Germans than there are Confederates.

 

We FINALLY agree....EV companies are cutting back production because consumers are realizing from infrastructure to performance...EV's are overall inferior.



OH...and Yugo.....Yugoslavia.

You must be a Gender Studies major with a secondary concentration in Theater Science or something.

 

Yes, the well known EV companies (checks again) Ford and GM.

 

and Tesla....they're an American EV company too....

Probably has a secondary concentration in Midevil neolithic poetry too.

 

Tesla sales have increased every year. The article referenced was about Ford cutting production because they can't sell their EVs against the competition. BYD, Tesla, Hyundai/Kia, and a few others are far ahead in efficiency and cost reduction.

 

No...but we agree that their products are inferior compared to American ICE cars and trucks on every test/bench mark as well as the support infrastructure for them...even though Tesla did the best job of trying.

 

Section 179 of the IRC allows businesses to take an immediate deduction for business expenses related to depreciable assets such as equipment, vehicles, and software.

That doesn't apply to the average person and is not a
tax deduction merely for buying an ICE vehicle. You're
talking apples and oranges.

 

It was predicted that EVs would replace ICE vehicles
about 125 years ago.

A Brief History of the Electric Car, 1830 to Present
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g43480930/history-of-electric-cars/

 

Yeah right,and we were all supposed to have are own private flying car by now.

 

East Germans have even better car, Trabant. One of those in nice shape is worth more than used EV
https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/trabant/601/601-universal/1989/316737

 

Hope you have better luck than I did…

 

Ford is well on track to sell more F150 Lightnings than last year, just not as many as they planned to sell. It is still a growing market for EVs. The Miata, Vette, Wrangler, and F350 aren’t for everyone, but they can be great for the right buyer and purpose. Same for EVs. I suspect GM’s electric pickup will be putting the hurt on CT and Lightning sales. That is how it goes in a market where each generation of a product is significantly better than the one before.

 

Here my recent experience with my first 'real' road trip.

Cincinnati to Cleveland. 242 miles, 78 kWh consumed. Just a a bit over 3.1 mi/kWh. This was at an average speed of 65 and the heat on and cruise on the highway set at 71mph. Ambient temp of 30f.

This was in a 2024 EV6 GT. Could have made the trip on without stopping, but topped up the battery half way.

...but...the EV infrastructure in the states is a joke. You need an app for every different vendor. Few if any offer card payment at the unit and if they do, you pay a sightly higher rate than if you use the app.

The only DC fast charge units in my parents town are in the back lot of the Jeep dealer with no signage.

 

As I have stated before. The step to mass adoption is a defined charging standard and connector format. As long as their are multiple vendors with different connectors and need a separate app for each vendors vehicle then you have road blocks to building infrastructure and ease of use for the customer. When you pull up to a gas pump you know the nozzle will fit and that you can fill your car up. If you have to wonder if the right adapter is in in the vehicle for whatever flavor of public charger you pull up to it will remain a niche product.

 

More money in your pocket with less taxes paid.

 

Up until this year when the Tesla NACS was adopted, current EV's standardized on j1772.

 

East Germany was part of Yugoslavia?

 

That EV6 GT is such a cool car. It will do 3.1 to 60 at sea level or 20k ft elevation while hauling a family of four and groceries or sit all day in bumper to bumper traffic without ever overheating.

 

They look pretty cool too. I just don't know if I trust them to hold up since their ICE cars tend to need engines at an alarmingly high rate.