You are correct, Jim. I heard it on talk radio. But you must admit, they are VERY good pension benefits compared to us common folks. From Fox news, even. Their pensions explained: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314828,00.html
I wouldn't disagree with any of that. :up: My point is that people should stop making stuff up that's easily disproved when the facts (as vetted by a neutral party) are already pretty bad. It completely undermines their position and discounts future rants. -jim
Nope. They don't deny you the ability to hire trained legally carrying security for yourself or your convenience store. Go for it. The kids have been secure so that's an indication their security is unnecessary? You're an idiot
I don't disagree that we should be able to protect ourselves. But the whole hypocrisy argument because the president is protected by the secret service is moronic. Leave it out of the discussion and you'll actually be able to make a point about self protection without looking like an idiot...
Welcome to reality. Lots of management types get more in retirement that the grunts who worked for them.
Those children could be used against our entire country - hell yes they need protecting more than other kids. Which is not at all the same thing as saying all kids don't need protection - they do - but some need a shitload more based on who their parents are. Simple reality whether you like it or not.
I may be wrong, but I'm thinking that's the point Mike was trying to make. Note the boldened portion I quoted to Monte.
Not when is first line is saying where the president is being a hypocrite and the rest of his post is trying to show how hypocritical and how much the kids shouldn't have security....
GMAB. It's the other way around, if you recall. No one is arguing that his kids shouldn't have security. Of course they should, and so should the kids at every school. Who was poking holes in the NRA's recommendations that all schools should have armed guards? I believe it was Obama and other gun-grabbing democrats. So yeah, add THAT to his growing list of why he's a hypocrite.
I would disagree that having anything happen to the President's kids would threaten the country. It might be tragic, but there's no traction there. There's no opportunity for blackmail and the kids themselves have no value since they have no function, thus no reason to kidnap them.
here we go - Proposed bill What they really want is this - the step right before they want all the guns gone. This bill is for 1 round only, no mags no nothing. 1 round guns or illegal. To reduce the use of guns for criminal acts they say http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/TOB/S/2013SB-00122-R00-SB.htm
I'm not sure, but I think even most bolt action rifles will hold more than one round in the built in mag. So, virtually all the guns in CT will become illegal, and virtually all of the gun owners criminals. Very provocative move, even if it is just an opening bid in a larger negotiation. Openly turn your opposition into criminals - nice!
One of my favorite rifles I lust for is a black powder October country Sporting Rifle in .69 cal. 1-104 twist. 225 grains of ffg is 2000 fps and 4300 foot pound of energy. Great elk gun for a hunt to be named later. The other is a E author brown single shot in 6.5mm BRM. Really want a Shiloh Sharps Blackpowder Rifle too, some day after we get settled in the new digs. Single shots rifles. That's all I need, YRMV. Of course I'm not planning on getting rid of my .40 M&P