Ducati V2 or GSX-R 750 Next Generation Rules

Looking to move away from my 2021 ZX-6R's and onto either a Ducati V2 or GSX-R 750 following Next Generation Technical Specifications. Other then my first track bike being a 2007 GSX-R 600, I don't have much to go on either way. I already know the pricing difference between the 2, but am looking for other pros and cons. I think I know which way I am headed, but was looking to see if anyone had input and/or which one you would pick if you were going to purchase one.

Thank you

 

Start a poll… I would go GSXR-750 if it were me. V2 is cool and all, but a derated 750 should be the most reliable race bike any of us have ever had. And it is capable of finishing at the top so it’s either rider or setup if you aren’t fast enough.

 

The v2 is the nicest bike I've ever worked on or ridden. Everything about it feels quality compared to the Suzuki, Yamaha and Aprilia I've had. It's insanely fast unrestricted and it's easy to ride.
Now with that being said the setup window is small and changed with ride height etc so you will have a big learning curve.
That along with the new v2 coming in would be a few reasons to go with the simplicity of the Suzuki

 

If you have to ask, buy the Suzuki.

 

I would become very familiar with the Next Gen SS rules package for 25.

You will immediately need to buy the ECU for either bike. For the 750 you will also need thr TBW kit. I would encourage you to talk to a a couple of the mechanics and data guys and get their opinion on the TBW system before making your choice on the bike.

Are you looking at a 25 V2?

 

I’m curious, since the GSXR is a combo of custom made parts for the ride by wire, will that continue to be allowed in the class?

Is that homebrew setup consistently working well? Does it having more glitches, versus OEM systems made for 1000’s of units with lots of R&D dollars spent developing them? There has to be people on here using them, how is the RBW setup?

 

@Hyperdyne looks like we were both thinking the same thing and typing our responses. You were just quicker on the keys. Lolol

 

There can be issues for sure. You should be good at troubleshooting electronics or be able to pay someone who is.

 

You’re in PA…so for anything Suzuki…personally, I’d contact Karn’s Performance. Jason and crew build absolutely excellent bullet-proof race bikes. They’re going with the GSX8R next year…so have you considered that platform?

I’ve had two GSXRs’ a 750 and a 1000 motor done by Karns…but “mild” builds that made absolutely outstanding power, ran like butter and the price for the parts/labor and dyno were way more than fair. He also tuned my son’s R3 and added a quick shifter to it for me last year.

If you go with the 750, I’d still contact Karns. Just my 2 cents.

 

I'd probably go with the 750 because it should be competitive with the balancing, and the cost/availability of spares should be better. The difference in cost to build one to MA spec is probably a wash after the RBW conversion on the 750.
DISCLAIMER: I don't know what I'm talking about

 

I'd talk to SuperCarl Racing to get real world feedback on the trials and tribulations he has had with his RBW Suzuki.

 

In total, it's about $8,000 for the enterprise electronics you will have to install on the 750. The ECU suite from Mectronik is 50% of that. And to what Rick said, you will NEED a troubleshooting person on hand at the races to assist.

 

With this year's ruleset I can't imagine they'd perform differently but I'd lean toward the 750. It already has linkages and triples homologated, multiple teams are running them so theres knowledge in the paddock you can ask if you have to.

The V2 has a compulsory engine kit. It doesn't seem super insane(you can probably get away with not doing if you wanted to be lazy) but it's a other step instead of ordering and slapping in an engine on eBay if one pops.
If you haven't already, shoot an email to team hammer.

 

I have spoken to a MA rider that's racing a V2 and their experience has been challenging. Specifically, given that it is a newer platform, the tribal knowledge isn't as deep and the teams that have that knowledge are treating it like their IP. Nothing wrong with that, since they're spending the money to develop the bike. However, depending on your resources, choosing the V2 might require more time to develop and to establish a baseline setting. Meanwhile, as mentioned above, the 750 can be delivered from Team Hammer ready to roll. You could get the same from HSBK/Warhorse, but the paddock tribal knowledge will be deeper with the 750.

 

Take the easy way out. Get a liter bike and race sstk1000.

 

It is much easier, yes.