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Discussion in 'General' started by Wheel Bearing, Oct 27, 2015.

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  1. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    i would never dream of removing the clutch lever and only relying on a rekluse auto-clutch, and replacing the clutch lever with a left hand rear brake. do some do this? as you know.. yes. I'm friends with Fred Cameron, 78 yrs old and still rides NEPG events (national enduro) and marks 15+- of trail here at Croom motorcycle park every winter. he has a yam yz125 with a rekluse set up with left hand rear brake (no clutch lever, no rear brake pedal at all).
    Many of the pro off road riders wouldn't dream of using an auto clutch.. riding the occasional 50+A off road events, i still remember the day many years ago when i promoted myself to Senior A class (40+A) after a year of hare scrambles. hadnt' done an enduro yet, riding a honda 450. i'd stall and the lead guys were gone. the leaders in A class just dont' make mistakes. and many of them had rekluse. It was one day in the FL heat trying to kick start my pig of a 450 back to life that i said "i'm gonna try one-a them auto clutch things".. :) different strokes for different folks ! :)
     
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  2. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    just get handy with checking free-gain at the end, before, and occasionally during a ride. as the clutch stack wears, the free gain gets less and less (the amount the lever comes back when you have a bit of finger pressure on the lever, and you rev the gas to bring rpm up and engage the rekluse). when the rekluse exp device opens, and pushes against the pressure plate, thats when you feel the lever coming back. rekluse includes a big orange rubber band, but you NEED to become proficient in checking with just fingers. if there is less than 1/8" or no gain, the exp ring isn't pushing against the pressure plate and your clutch will be slipping a lot of the time
     
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  3. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew EeVee range testor and subsidy recipient

    a few of those vet guys are in their mid to late 60s. Maybe have arthritis or some kind of malady.
    Yes... no clutch lever and the rear brake on the bar with the pedal deleted...lol. Its their bike not mine so more power to them.
    I have a exp core 3.0 rekluse on my 250x. It cost less than 1/2 of what a janky e start kit was selling for at the time I was setting the bike up. Maybe one day I will get an e start kit for it but it sits 4-6 months at a time between rides/use. Not having a battery is kind of a blessing.
     
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  4. WillMill

    WillMill CRA MN #633

    Yea, this will be my 6th season on it. I’ve gotten quite familiar with it. I actually run my clutch a little on the tighter side, so when Im at a stop with the clutch let out, its still a little grabby.
     
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  5. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking Spit on that thing

    I had a Rekluse on my FE350 (bought it that way) and went back to stock.

    I'm not doing rock crawls or anything hard enduro-ish, and I like the engagement of a true clutch - the Rekluse felt like wearing a condom to me.

    -Super Slow Guy Who's Input Should Not be Valued
     
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  6. prm

    prm Well-Known Member

    The Rekluse has always been a mystery to me. Need to look into it. Leaning heavily towards an FC350 and plan to get back into mx riding and racing. I can race the 50+ and 55+ vet classes!
     
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  7. Spooner

    Spooner Well-Known Member


    We (Parts Unlimited) have two in stock. Part number is 1130-0846.
     
  8. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    30 day money back when you buy from them (so plenty of time to actually try it, a 10 min ride on a friends bike will NEVER give you real feel for how they work).. great assistance over the phone with the guys AT Rekluse (not some rendo in a call center in Pakistan or Vietnam) . send em a simple 1 page resume and can get up to %45 off product.
    I ride a few days a week in the woods, and ride my bike for most part, like they don't even have a rekluse.. but the benefits are nice. and now with the 4.0 exp out, wear should be greatly improved.
     
  9. Wheel Bearing

    Wheel Bearing Professional low sider

    That was my experience as well and the analogy is spot on.
     
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  10. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Dang, what is that?!

     
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  11. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew EeVee range testor and subsidy recipient

    its a lil short on being a long block. Your friends would make you ride sweep as nobody likes being roosted by a 500cc 2T :)
     
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  12. Spooner

    Spooner Well-Known Member

    Not to keep beating a dead horse, but it was probably not properly set up. A good setup is essentially imperceivable to stock. I've had many people ride my bikes with them and not even realize they are in there. It used to take a bit of work to dial them in but the latest stuff you basically just install in and do the initial adjustment and you're good.
     
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  13. WillMill

    WillMill CRA MN #633

    This. You would never know on my bike if I didn’t tell you.
     
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  14. turner38

    turner38 Well-Known Member

    Anyone had any experience with the Best Dual Sports guys ECU reflash on KTM 500’s or 501’s?
    Bought a new FE501S on sale and need to uncork it a bit.
     
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  15. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew EeVee range testor and subsidy recipient

    Skip the middle man go straight to John Ross
    https://www.tpituning.com/
     
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  16. Once a Wanker..

    Once a Wanker.. Always a Wanker!

    Picking up a new Husky FE 350s next week. Heavily discounted price at my local dealer is too good to pass up. ($8,980. plus the hard to avoid fees and taxes of course.) Needed a street legal D/S to ride Forest Service roads with my future son in law, though I still hope to get a plated 2-T e-start bike down the road.

    Many options for ECU swaps or re-flashes to be researched and considered, then there's the de-smogging and other stuff to do as well.
    I'll likely try a Rekluse eventually, so I'll have to decide which one to get.
    I'll be looking for a second, and eventually a third set of wheels. I've owned a WR250X and know how much fun this bike will be with motard wheels on it in the mountains.

    Looking for advise and suggestions here, though I have quite a few friend's to learn from also.

    This is my first euro-bike I've owned since 1973, when I bought my first motorcycle; a crashed AMF H.D./ Aermacchi Sprint 350 SX.
     
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  17. SpeedyE

    SpeedyE Experimental prototype, never meant for production

    That's the same clutch-pack and bike I have.
    I got the auto clutch cause both my hands are super herky/jerky, confused, very little feeling in them and I struggle to operate-efficiently w/ both hands at the same time (ala: throttle & clutch at the same time), due to surgeries and a massive brain stroke. I drop stuff out of my hands many many many times a day, if I have something in my hands, 30%x I drop it.... very frustrating, and not good w/ releasing cluttch and working throttle togetther..
    I have only ridden the bike 1x w/ the auto-clutch, but it was much much easier for me to operate (vs the oem clutch). I have thoughts/fears, that i stall while climbing and roll backwards. I made a cable handbrake out of a bmx caliper, but it is soggy @ the lever and inefficient.
    Regardless, I am still very happy I got the auto clutch. I got it on ebay NOS for $300 shipped. I could not have afforded one retail, so i was luckky w/ that.

    I have the physical strength of a 10 or 12yr old now, and I am short, so once the bike starts leaning, I am falling. Over and over and over again..... I Struggle to upright the bike too. So I lowered the front/rear internally 30mm, and dropped the forks another 20mm. I took 3" out of the seat by grafting a Husky 501FE seat-foam & cover to to the YZ's seat-pan. I also have a zeta link in the back set at OEM height/angle, but I may raise the rear a notch or too, cause the bike steers so heavy for me. As weak as I am , I should have bought a 125. My buddies 125 is so much easier for me to ride. Still tip over on his bike too though.

    My bike sits so low now, it looks like a kids trail bike, haha. I am worried about ground clearance, but it was too tall and I kept falling/etc.
    * I also mounted mountain bike climbing bars, to make the bike easier for me to lift when it falls, I don't have to bend down as much.... I am slowly finding 'workarounds' for all my BS/crap

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  18. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking Spit on that thing

    I have a 2017 FE350.

    Has some desmogging done to it, although I'm on the lookout for a Vortex ECU.

    Sumo wheels are a fucking riot.

    What else are you looking to glean? Redo the suspension for an American weight, and then get a Vortex or tuner so it doesn't run so lean and just have fun on the SOB.....happy to list off the upgrades I've done to mine if that helps you out.
     
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  19. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew EeVee range testor and subsidy recipient

    KTMtalk.com is a wealth of info. Signup is a lil bit of a chore but worth the squeeze.
     
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  20. turner38

    turner38 Well-Known Member


    I ended up putting a Taco Moto Get ECU on mine. With the LED map switch so the quick shifter works and trac which I keep turned off most of the time.
    Put a recluse 4.0 in mine, works very well. A little tighter than the one in my TX300 but good.
    I added a tooth to the countershaft sprocket just to make it more agreeable on the rides to the trails. Still does tight single track well in second gear.

    Used a Taco Moto tidy tail, don’t really care for the cheesy switch that came with it, may explore other tail light options to get the factory switchgear back on it.

    Have spare wheels for the 300, haven’t done the wheel swap yet. Still on oem tires. When I get motivated I’ll pull the wheels off the 300 with MX53’s mounted on them and put them on the 501. It’s been dry enough it hasn’t mattered anywhere I’ve been. Yet.
     
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