Debt Ceiling Negotiations

I'm running for planning and zoning in 2012 in our little town. Takes about six hours a month on average. I'll give my two years to help out.

 

Thats exactly why they were elected. The system is broke, new blood was sent to Washington to change things. Give it a couple more election cycles and there will be enough power to constitute change on both sides of the isle.As it stands, they have enough to get attention, once the establishment has been replaced, we can get to the business of reclaiming the country.

 

Good on ya!

 

I am just hoping Ca outlaws those smelly cigars Sapsis smokes. He's like a one man PG&E

 

I got off BART ( underground train) at West Oakland station once at midnight by mistake. There was a pool of light and around the perimeter of the station a school sharks circled, waiting for victims. The Taxi that went by stopped, and the drive said: "What the HELL are you doing here? Get in now."

 

What I meant by "back in the day" was, at a certain point in our history, the common man had a much greater influence because there wasn't such a gap between the powerful (wealthy, influential, etc.) and the masses, as there is today. Sometime in the past, if a group of farmers didn't like things, one of them could run for office and have a reasonable chance of winning, get in and affect change. Today, you have to know people, have a metric shit ton of money, sell your soul to corporations and special interests, and pander to your chosen party, and then, you might get elected. Unless you're from Minnesota or California... Then you have to be a wrestler, bodybuilder, actor or comedian.

You are absolutely right. There are a lot more ways to send out a message to the world. But, does a message still influence Washington? I'd wager to say voters have been unhappy with a number of things for quite some time - the wars, the spending, the economy, jobs... If its so easy to get out your message, why are these things not changing?

I've been part of petitions, letter campaigns, organized events, etc. requesting change. I've called/e-mail Congressman, done a number of things. Nothing ever changes. When you call or e-mail now, you get a nice little form letter, or scripted voice message saying how important you are and how hard he/she is working in Washington.

 

Let's look at that again. Today, a lot of the politicians ARE the hippies of the 60's. (Hello Jerry Brown) ♪He's backkk.♪

 

I'll see your Governor Moonbeam and raise you a Governor Good Hair!

 

Yes! The Feds have way more power than was ever intended.

Again this concept is very far from what was originally intended.


What is with the bashing on the Tea Party? Every citizen in this country should be on board with 99% of the core beliefs of the party. If they launched the Traditional Family Values belief there is no excuse really.

 

Should I be grateful or regretful that you are telling me what to believe in?

 

Grateful would be my guess comrade.

 

It isn't as if you are unfamiliar with the concept.

 

Maybe that's why I asked?

Nice double negative usage. A lot more creative and thought provoking than the ram-down-throat rhetorical style in fave lately, don't you agree?

BTW Throttle, if I am reading the core values right, and allowing for some disagreement on interpretations, I am 67%, so you got a winner here!

 

I've been rhetoric free for 14 months now.

 

I'll challenge that with the fact that Gov Good hair is too young to have been a hippy. Plus, if he had tried to be a hippy, living in Paint Creek Texas, he would have simply disappeared one night. (The locals weren't too happy with hippies there.) Pun intended.

 

Didn't realize that saying people should be on board with something was telling you what to believe.

What of their core beliefs do you feel need to be interpreted different? OR changed? Seems most of it is pretty straightforward and really should go without saying when compared to the constitution and the original intent.

 

Mr Abuse, I don't believe you are old enough to know "the original intent" of the framers of the Constitution.

 

You should go ahead and fill him in Panther...

 

I don't remember so...