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2023 Daytona 200

Discussion in 'General' started by grasshopper, Feb 14, 2023.

  1. grasshopper

    grasshopper Well-Known Member

    The V2 is 955cc but regardless his comment during the red flag was like "WTF?!?!"
  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Pretty sure it was Danny getting into Hobbs. Either way pretty sure MA doesn't have much in the 200 rules about causing a red or not. I was surprised they could repair the bike and refuel but no tires.
  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I even had officials a couple years back trying to enforce that stuff and I changed ours a decade or more ago :crackup:
  4. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Ain't no way the riders read the 200 rules :D
  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    And looked like they were pissing off the Joshes and others in the infield too. Saw the 600's especially check up and make more aggressive moves early than I expected and it was almost always dealing with the 750's. It was fun to watch the different styles and the riders working them.
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  6. regularguy

    regularguy Always Krispy

    Right now, the 600s can still use the stock or kit ECU. The requirement for the 600s to switch to Metronik is 2024, which sucks for R6 racers because the R6 homologation expires in Jan 2025. Hopefully, the ECU can get reprogrammed and Yammie guys will just need a new harness to work with the R9 that suppose to be coming.
    Speaking of the future, what's going to be interesting is the twins cup rules package. The nail is just about in the coffin for WSS300 and twins will be joining the WSBK paddock. If FIM uses different rules, will MA follow the tradition of adopting the FIM rules package as they have done with the other classes?
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  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Because whoever wrote the 200 rules didn't really write them for endurance racing?
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  8. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I have to say I was kind of disappointed Greg and Jason didn't have the 200 rules in front of them given they knew it was different than normal.
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  9. rapidzrx

    rapidzrx Well-Known Member

    He'll be on a SUPERBIKE V4
  10. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    Do you remember the first year Eslick won the 200? He came on to pit road flat out and held it wide open against the pit wall until braking like a maniac for his pit stall at the end of pit road.

    It was impressive, but it's absolutely crazy that he could be coming down pit lane at 170 plus while other riders are pulling out from a dead stop. And he wasn't the only one.
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  11. Peter Hively

    Peter Hively Registered

    Right but the team managers and crew chiefs should have, and they can explain the relevant items to the riders so they know what's going on at the restart.

    Actually, once in a while it is the rider that knows the rules better than anybody...

    Ask Scott Harwell about the time he won us the Team Challenge at Daytona when we were just out there practicing, man that had the whole paddock wondering WTF just happened!
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  12. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator


    Sorry about that, given up trying to keep up with what Ducati is calling a middleweight :D
  13. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Oh I agree with all of that. It does seem lately though I'm running across more and more people at all levels who just don't bother looking at the rules at all. It's kind of weird.
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  14. Tristan

    Tristan Well-Known Member

    "plausible deniability"
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  15. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

  16. 88/532

    88/532 Simply Antagonistical

    Well Capt O, thanks. Or, not.
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  17. Christopher Graybosch

    Christopher Graybosch Well-Known Member

    Pissed me off, but I don’t expect less from Herrin..
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  18. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    i think the 750 just has the max throttle opening limited. this doesn't slow down the off the corner advantage a 750 has having so much more torque than an R6.. which is all done when just opening the throttle and mid throttle.

    And Gillim is a big dude compared to the to the other guys. by a lot. Also consider that you post is only the 1 time max top speed, potentially done in 3 or 4 bike drafts, nothing regarding an average top speed over say 10 laps, or when by themselves. Richie was putting in stellar laps pushing his own air. Not taking anything way from any of these guys, just saying it was pretty evident (to me) that the 750 had a bit of an edge even on the Ducati.

    I'm also looking at results from when some of these guys were on 600's, then jumped to the 750. EVERYONE started finishing better. won't name names, but a few come to mind quickly.
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  19. Used2befast

    Used2befast Well-Known Member

    So your saying "he had more hp so I shoved him"? :crackup:
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  20. Knarf Legna

    Knarf Legna I am not Gary Hoover

    They do have a distinct Euro smell to them. :)

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