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2023 Daytona 200

Discussion in 'General' started by grasshopper, Feb 14, 2023.

  1. Chino52405

    Chino52405 Well-Known Member

    It's nice to have it explained, but those are some crazy rules. I love how some rules are geared toward ensuring a restart is treated as a separate race, but time penalties for minor infractions are applied in what has already been called a second race.
  2. dsapsis

    dsapsis El Jefe de los Monos

    It seems like a giant flaming hole in rules -- Example: A fast rider that crashed and remounted but completed 46 (compared to 52 for the leaders) laps gets to start fresh for a 10 lap sprint. This goes against most everything I understand about an endurance race, and maybe that is on me, but it still does not seem in the least bit fair.
  3. lopitt85

    lopitt85 Well-Known Member

    My guess is its written that way to prevent people from taking a "calculated" risk (i.e. decision) to speed on pit lane early in the race in order to stay as far ahead as possible.

    Chances are that there will be a red flag in a race as long as the D200. So if it wasn't for that rule, people may be willing to purposefully speed early in the race, knowing that their penalty will be wiped out in the event of a red flag.

    Just my SWAG at what their thought process might've been when writing that rule.
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  4. knedragon29

    knedragon29 Well-Known Member

    So 1 ,4 , 96 , 79 and 95 were on the lead lap at the Red , 45 went by the 1 twice but early in the tri-oval . You can finish 39 laps and be in to win it :whoosh:. WTF and then to top it all off you will get a 15 second penalty after the race for pitlane violation but you can regain 13 laps down :crackup:. Paasch finished ahead of Davis on track but not in results :Pop: with the same 15 second penalty . They getting a explanation ready for it ?
  5. Dan Dubeau

    Dan Dubeau Well-Known Member

    That is some Nascar "all for the show" type of ruling for sure. In the end, 1 and 2, were still 1 and 2, before and after, but......
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  6. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Twins were doing 151!
  7. Monsterdood

    Monsterdood Well-Known Member

    Into a headwind. Race 2 showed higher trap speeds. They showed 160mph for Mesa I thought.
  8. Monsterdood

    Monsterdood Well-Known Member

    Nice 1-2 in Twins Knarf!
  9. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    I thought it said 151 but I could be mistaken
  10. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    but what do twins trap times have to do with the 750cc, duc and R6 trap times.. the 750 sure seemed to have some legs. Gillim setting highest trap speed, and is arguably the biggest guy out there? some could barely stay in Richie's draft. i could be wrong..
  11. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Just goes to show that all the trap speeds are higher. which is what I thought you were bringing up
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  12. ToofPic

    ToofPic Member known well

    I Thought initially the 750's had to run a select map setting that kinda kept the HP #'s down? Something to that effect.It kept the 750's out last season until they met the set requirements were met.I would think it all came down to what moto america deemed acceptable? I have no idea what numbers or weight requirements would be.Would they dyno/weigh during tech? Pre and post? I would also wonder if they could swap maps on the fly racing?
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  13. Monsterdood

    Monsterdood Well-Known Member

    162.3mph was highest Twins trap speed in Race 2. There were 4-5 people over 160 over the course of the weekend.
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  14. thrak410

    thrak410 My member is well known

    All this confusion seems to be because they called it a new 10 lap race, instead of continuing\finishing the D200 race. So dumb... all that work and then it just becomes a 10 lap sprint.
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  15. prm

    prm Well-Known Member

    I haven’t looked times/splits over closely, but my impression is guy’s on the 750s seem to perform very well, perhaps slightly above what I would expect. That was the case last year as well. If I were going racing Supersport on a budget the 750 would be very high on my list.
  16. Rising

    Rising Well-Known Member

    So has Ducati won the shortest and the longest Daytona "200s"?
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  17. knedragon29

    knedragon29 Well-Known Member

    The 2023 Daytona 32.0
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  18. Peter Hively

    Peter Hively Registered

  19. DaveB

    DaveB Just Riding Around

    Not sure how "budget" it would be after you spent the bucks on the fly by wire conversion required. I don't know the real numbers but I seem to remember it being rather spendy.
  20. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Still probably cheaper than multiple 10-12 superbike engines for a year
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