Has anyone any experience of using Hondabond 4 vs Yamabond 4? I've always used Yamabond 4 on the crankcases of my bike and on the cylinder base gasket but I can't get any locally and I need it this weekend. I can get the Hondabond 4 from the local stealership. I really like the Yamaha stuff it works perfectly for my purposes, is the Honda product as good, better or not as good? The bike in questions is a 250 Ducati, wet sump, vertically split cases.
Use lots of hondabond 4 and it's great.. but permatex rtv from the autoparts works as good if not better and is cheaper. The one thing I don't like about the hondabond is its grey and shows more on the modern black sportbike engines than the black permatex stuff.
Wait, you're using yamabond on a ducati??!! Ducatibond man! Fwiw, they both have worked the same for me.
Since we're talking about Yamabond, have you guys seen this? Solvent based threadlock that doesn't harm plastic. https://www.shopyamaha.com/product/details/yamabond-14?b=Search&d=36|36
I put a set of cases together dry once, just because I knew the fate of the engine and I was curious. They didn't leak. For me, the biggest thing is to use something that isn't too heavy and can go on very thin. I'm far more concerned about blocking an oil galley with some spooge than I am about the case halves leaking.
I have used both the Honda and Yamaha stuff and seen little to no difference. All I know is OEM gasket prices are ridiculous and I am starting to wonder if I can just use some Honda/Yamabond in place of them on things like case covers and whatnot. Sick of $30 paper cover gaskets lol.
I ran out of Yamabond 4 and had trouble finding it. I bought Threebond 1184. It's a bit different. Goes on more of a liquid but thickens up within a minute or two.
What was the old blood red looking stuff? It looked like you had left dried blood on the engine case if you got it outside. lol I loved it but can't for the life of me remember what the hell it was. I've been using Threebond 1157 for years which is like
Doesn't threebond make Honda kawi, yama, suzi bond? I have both 1157 and 1184 threebond and use it on everything
I pretty much just use this stuff for everything. You know those little plastic clips that hold the window glass to the regulator? I had a salesman who was too cheap to buy an OEM merc window with the clips already epoxied in place so he bought a rock auto window without the clips. I took off the old clips, cleaned out all of the pieces of broken glass, then used the FIPG 103 to adhere the clips to the new glass. Five years in, they were still stuck! I also did a manual can chain tensioner on my 675, complete with new case gasket. I felt my foot getting slippery during a track day and looked down to see an oily mist accumulated on my boot. I took off the case cover, brake cleaned the surfaces, threw out the gasket and applied the 103. The next session in, the case and my boot were bone dry. That was around five years ago, and it's still dry. Edit: I just remembered using it on my floating handguard screws on the AR15 as loc-tite too. Still tight!
^ Probably 518. The anaerobic sealers were all I ever used on Jetski cases (and other machines). Never had an issue over 20+ years. Good stuff, lasts a long time, easy to clean from mating surfaces.
What do you use to clean it off mating surfaces? I used to use it in place of head gaskets on pitbikes as it was the only thing that would keep them from misting or blowing oil all over the place when built up. I would also source a new cylinder and head casting when it came time to separate the two as that stuff didn't come off short of re-machining the surfaces...