What's a 'Terrorist'? What's a 'Revolutionary'?

But just some rich ship owner slob type person lost his tea not the British gooberment with the crazy king.

And John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry?

http://www.civilwarhome.com/johnbrown.htm

Had his own constitution and everything.

David

 

Many terrorist groups have constitutions, a prime example, but not limited some of the White supremacy groups that operated in the American North West.

What John Brown did could easily be considered a terrorist act. Treasonous at the very least.

There can be a very fine line between what can be considered a terrorist group and what is a revolutionary group. Depends on your point of view. I would imagine there are people out there in the world who consider Al Queda a revolutionary group. Hell, some people consider the American Revolutionaries to be terrorist.

 

It all depends on whose side you are on.

 

During the recent Iragi war, I can remeber Bill O'Reilly asking one of the expert Generals, what could be done about these indescriminate acts of violence by small bands of men ambushing our soldiers. The General accused the Iraqi army of fighting like cowards, saying that they knew that they could not win using conventional means, and that they had descended into the unsportsman like hit and run tactics. "Dispicable" agreed Bill.

The irony howerver, could not escape me. Bill and the General sounded all the world like a couple of British Generals during the war of American Independance. How times have changed.

I agree with Dave, there is a very fine line.

 

yeah, but come on. the british wanted to line up and face each other. then, aim rifles at each other's face and pull the trigger.

they were pissed that we shielded ourself with trees and such.

bunch of stupid tools.

 

Re: Re: What's a 'Terrorist'? What's a 'Revolutionary'?

Frank, I don't deal in P&C - its a waste of time and money. As far as I'm concnered, anything that doesn't earn 30% is a waste.

 

Yeah, and wear neon red uniforms while standing still.

 

yep.

bunch of stupid tools.

 

Somebody attach the Reid Ruling.

 

Here it is I think:

 

Revolutionaries are terrorists whom succeed, and thus get to write the history!

 

Excellent read. Never heard it before.

 

Disagree. You could be both a terrorist and a revolutionary if you attack non-combatants in an effort to demoralize, threaten or otherwise cause havoc in society. Whether or not Al queda is a revolutionary group or not is beside the point -- it is clear that there intention was to attack non-combatants at the WTC and the African embassy bombings. One might argue that the attacks on the Pentagon or military barracks was not a "terrorist attack" per se, but they are clearly terrorists given the WTC and embassy.

Conversely, a government could be anti-revolutionary and either terrorist or non-terrorist in its tactics.

Keep in mind that governments have been the greatest mass murderers and terrorists - the WTC attacks were nothing compared to the millions of civilians who were targeted and killed by goverments in their campaigns of terror.

Rodger

 

That's what I said:

"terrorist - member of the losing team.

revolutionary - member of the winning team.

History is written by the winners, correct?"

 

That's what I get for not reading all the posts!

 

At least some jerk didn't call you Atl Hulagirl.

 

shooooosh!!!!

You keep saying it and it's likely to stick! Do you think I want to be know as atl_hulagurl????

 

Just means we think alike. Scary, huh?

 

Or we both did WAY too much acid as kids!

 

Personally, I don't think there's a definition of terrorist that is going to be agree upon. My thoughts are similar to what some others have said, "Its those that we hate." Its not what they did, or why they did it - only that we've identified them as an enemy and hate them. Therefore they are terrorists.

The term 'terrorist' in modern times is a tool, designed as propganda and brainwashing. The term is invoked to cause fear and alarm and suppress reasoning. Its used to justify the unjustifyable. When governments commit murder, they will say he/she was a terrorist. Case closed. No accounting. When people are tortured or detained indefinitely or subjected to any other horror, the response is, he/she is a suspected terrorist.

When one hears the term terrorist, we're supposed to suspend all manner of civilized behaviour and revert to pure animalistic hate. No longer are they to be viewed as people because, people are afforded dignity, rights, ...